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Good old bumbling Boris, eh? 'ee's a right laugh.
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| I'm surprised that anyone can think that the best efforts of Sth Yorks Police and Ambulance and the Thatcher Government were anything but class and politically inspired and indeed Jack Straw has said as much today and been shot down by Norman Tebbitt (like you'd trust his take on things), I can only think that those who suggest otherwise were probably too young to appreciate the vicious class war that was conducted throughout the 1980s, the battering of the unions, the crushing of the likes of Derek Hatton and Ken Livingstone - some of this may have been deserved depending on your point of view but when those in authority falsify documents and facts and then go further to incriminate those whom they regarded (at the time) as being from an area of direct opposition to them politically, then you are treading into very dangerous ground, the sort of distorting of the truth that we are more used to seeing in South American dictatorships, its hardly surprising that even senior Tories finally turned against Thatcher before we started to see opposition politicians "disappear" as in Chile and Argentina.
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| Quote Him="Him"The Independent Panel was setup by a Labour government.
If anything this will simply remind people in Liverpool of what the right wing is like in this country.
In 2010 all Liverpool constituencies were won by Labour.'"
I have no idea why any football fan would ever vote Conservative. We are not proper citizens. We weren't then and we aren't now.
The fact I have no idea why anyone would ever vote Conservative is a side issue...
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| Quote Dally="Dally"The problem with Hillsborough was it was just not safe in the way it was used in those days. The standing room at the end were the people were crushed was tiny compared with the large Kop at the other end. Nevertheless, it always seemed that supporters of teams from the NW of England were always put in that end for big matches (I believe due to the direction of incoming traffic and the wish for segregation). Such clubs tended to have much bigger travelling support than the opposition. It seemed that despite this they tried to cram a big number in a spabe designed for a fraction of that number. I say that because I was fearful myself some years earlier for an Everton v Aston Villa League Cup replay there. Such was the crush that not only could we not move our hands and hardly breathe but my steel watch actually got mangled as the crowd moved but arms could not be!
So, as well as the police (who presumably made the end allocation and refused to open the cage doors when people were pleading with them and dying in front of them - something which could be seen on TV even before the TV commentators realised what was happening), the FA must shoulder some of the blame for choosing the venue.'"
Every football thug involved in trouble at that time can take their share of the blame for my money! The outrageous behaviour of hundreds of numpties on a weekly basis lead to football grounds looking like zoos. The hideous fences then served to stop people escaping onto the pitch. Well done fellas!
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| Quote gulfcoast_highwayman="gulfcoast_highwayman"
Good old bumbling Boris, eh? 'ee's a right laugh.'"
I could be wrong but I don't think Boris Johnson actually wrote that article, he was the Editor of the magazine?
If so your image is quite misleading.
He has also apologised - twice, what more do people want from him.
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| Quote christopher="christopher"I could be wrong but I don't think Boris Johnson actually wrote that article, he was the Editor of the magazine?
If so your image is quite misleading.
He has also apologised - twice, what more do people want from him.'"
Possibly not to OK such things in the first place. It's dripping with hatred for the oiks. Even if he didn't write it (I don't know, I'll admit) then as editor he nodded it through. It's the worst kind of bar room bo**ocks dressed up in flowery writing.
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| Quote christopher="christopher"
He has also apologised - twice, what more do people want from him.'"
Nothing!
And if I was a Liverpudlian or a friend or family of one of the deceased, absolutely nothing!
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| Quote gulfcoast_highwayman="gulfcoast_highwayman"Possibly not to OK such things in the first place. It's dripping with hatred for the oiks. Even if he didn't write it (I don't know, I'll admit) then [uas editor he nodded it through[/u. It's the worst kind of bar room bo**ocks dressed up in flowery writing.'"
McKenzie did the same, with his own (sick) embellishment
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| Quote gulfcoast_highwayman="gulfcoast_highwayman"Possibly not to OK such things in the first place. It's dripping with hatred for the oiks. Even if he didn't write it (I don't know, I'll admit) then as editor he nodded it through. It's the worst kind of bar room bo**ocks dressed up in flowery writing.'"
Yes it was an ill judges article, and I don't agree with the content but many people did at that time.
As I say, he's apologised - twice surely that should be it. Surely the last thing thats needed is hyperbole and the condemnation of anyone that has ever said or written anything about Liverpool supporters.
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| Quote christopher="christopher"Yes it was an ill judges article, and I don't agree with the content but many people did at that time.
As I say, he's apologised - twice surely that should be it. Surely the last thing thats needed is hyperbole and the condemnation of anyone that has ever said or written anything about [uLiverpool supporters[/u.'"
You best re-read that article if you think it was only relating to football supporters.
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"You best re-read that article if you think it was only relating to football supporters.'"
I was talking in general, still my point stands, what do you want from him? it was written (not by him) 8 years ago.
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| Quote christopher="christopher"I was talking in general, still my point stands, what do you want from him? it was written (not by him) 8 years ago.'"
Nothing!
I fully understand the mentality of his thought process.
I know where he came from.
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