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| But if Cas are going to be fined for a handful of morons chanting, then where's the punishment for the consistent problems with Hull's fans. Yes, you can point to every club and find an incident or two in isolation...but this has been going on with Hull for years. A player got taken out by a fan, and that's unacceptable. Could have been a lot worse. The club can't hide behind the SMC because at the end of the day they choose to employ them. It's failure to control the fans, on a far more dangerous basis than Cas allowing a single chant to occur.
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| What about Noble, Whats happening there then ?
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| Quote Speedy="Speedy"What about Noble, Whats happening there then ?'"
according to mr Solly, the RFL are still investigating the matter, and imo will do so till they consider it forgotten and sweep it under that big carpet
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| Quote joe14c="joe14c" The club can't hide behind the SMC because at the end of the day they choose to employ them. '"
What a load b0llox. The SMC run the stadium, it is they who employ the stewards and not FC.
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| So then surely Cas can hide behind their SMC and say it was their fault the fans chanted at Thomas and not the club. Somewhere along the line the club have to take some responsibility, it is their fans and a SMC that they employ.
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| Quote joe14c="joe14c"So then surely Cas can hide behind their SMC and say it was their fault the fans chanted at Thomas and not the club. Somewhere along the line the club have to take some responsibility, it is their fans and a SMC that they employ.'"
What are you trying to say there?
In my opinion, Cas should not have been fined for supporters chanting, it is part and parcel of the game.
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| Quote joe14c="joe14c"But if Cas are going to be fined for a handful of morons chanting, then [uwhere's the punishment for the consistent problems with Hull's fans.[/u Yes, you can point to every club and find an incident or two in isolation...but this has been going on with Hull for years. A player got taken out by a fan, and that's unacceptable. Could have been a lot worse. [uThe club can't hide behind the SMC because at the end of the day they choose to employ them.[/u It's failure to control the fans, on a far more dangerous basis than Cas allowing a single chant to occur.'"
1-no trouble at the game at your place this year,or last year(i attended both)even if there were more hull fans than cas fans
2-do we CHOOSE to employ them?no-we have no choice.
3-who employs your stewards?smc 
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| Quote jimmyfivebellies="jimmyfivebellies"1-no trouble at the game at your place this year,or last year(i attended both)even if there were more hull fans than cas fans
2-do we CHOOSE to employ them?no-we have no choice.
3-who employs your stewards?smc
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Jimmy, what makes you think Joe14c is a Cas fan? i'd hazzard a guess he's not.
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| I'm not a Cas fan.
It's irrelevant that there has been no trouble from Hull fans at the jungle, there are consistently incidents over a number of SL seasons.
The point is other teams, and I'm citing Cas as the example, have been fined for much less. What if that fan had attacked Donald, or had a weapon on him. If you don't get handed a fine comparable to the one handed to Cas it's a joke.
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| Quote jimmyfivebellies="jimmyfivebellies"1-no trouble at the game at your place this year,or last year(i attended both)even if there were more hull fans than cas fans
2-do we CHOOSE to employ them?no-we have no choice.
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Jeez you codheads of either persuasion are tedious..don't you ever tire of this 'we have more fans than Elvis' stuff.
Back on thread, maybe those clubs with grounds which are old but which they own and therefore control should score some license points against the lodgers/sharers in better stadia who - according to your argument - seem less empowered to ensure safety/security.
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| Quote smoking monkey="smoking monkey"Jeez you codheads of either persuasion are tedious..don't you ever tire of this 'we have more fans than Elvis' stuff.
Back on thread, maybe those clubs with grounds which are old but which they own and therefore control should score some license points against the lodgers/sharers in better stadia who - according to your argument - seem less empowered to ensure safety/security.'"
Interesting point. It would seem such clubs are 'unfineable' if the responsibility of stewarding lies with the stadium rather than the club. What kind of world is it where a club is punished for owning assets?
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| I'm pretty sure that in order to stage any RL match, Hull would have to have convinced Red Hall that the chosen venue would tick all the boxes, meet all H and S regulations, and that would have included adequately trained security staffing levels.
As part of their Licence, I'd hazard a guess that as far as the RL is concerned, it's Hull's resposibility to make sure these levels are maintained, therefore any sanctions will be against Hull, not SMC
100k fine should concentrate their thoughts!
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