Is there a link for the incident which allows us to see it properly . I thought it looked bad on SKY but if it is only a 1 to 2 match charge is obviously not as bad as the SKY team were saying

Thank you Sky Sports and TIVO slow frame advance... thanks to you two I now know for a fact that...



a) Despite what Leeds say, Rangi had two feet firmly on the ground at the point contact was made.

b) Despite what Leeds say, Hardaker was not at any point unconscious (unless he can move, rub his head, get up and walk off while being unconscious).

c) Despite what Leeds say, both of Rangi's arms were down through the contact. The right arm came up after the impact, not before.

d) Hardaker's tweet following the game (his elbow hit my chin) cannot possibly be right. At best it's mistaken, at worst vindictive.

Very grainy still of the impact here...



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Leaping in with both feet off the ground? Raised forearm? You decide...

Nether of the above Chase is on both feet, and Weekaker is stooping forward

Correct - a bit like our other pantomine villain of old Dean Sampson. Thats probably the reason we like him.

He means Weak as in the opposite of hard.

Well he serenely is not Hard

His Tweets are that of a 14 year old schoolgirl. Gone down alot in my estimation has Hardaker. He should take a leaf out of Ryan Hall book. He got creamed by a trio of Tigers defenders yesterday and took it on the chin.

illy wrote:

Both feet off the ground



Wrong, myth perpetuated by serial idiot Terry O'Connor.



=#FF0000Sorry I was wrong he was on his tiptoes and launching himself.



illy wrote:

arm still swinging forward after Hardaker is going down



If by "swinging" you mean "lifting" then yes, it's this thing called momentum, it happens in the MAJORITY of hits.



=#FF0000NO I mean swinging, that is why I put swinging and not "lifting". Also the arm lifting from momentum normally results in a penalty for a high tackle.



illy wrote:

Hardaker knocked out cold, how can people say there was no head contact.





1. No he wasn't, the Sky highlights show him talking to Chase and he walked off the pitch.

2. Concussions occur when the brain impacts the inside of the skull so you don't need to make contact with the head to cause a concussion - whiplash can do it.



=#FF0000Being knocked out cold can be from a one second or longer it has nothing to do with being able to walk off the pitch, he was knocked out and came round. Concussion who has mentioned that apart from you !! Are you trying to imply the hit was worse than I am.





illy wrote:

The ref did not think it was fine or it would not have gone on report, (he was not sure).





Please learn the rules of the game before you start spouting stupid lines like this, putting an incident on report means the ref either: A) Did not see it at all B) deemed the act to be illegal but not worthy of a card but worthy of a video review...Tim Roby judged the tackle to be legal, hence his decision of knock on, Castleford head & feed at the scrum.



=#FF0000I know the rules of the game hence why I put "he was not sure", on report is used for when the officials do not have a clear view or just want to bottle it.



illy wrote:

rian Mc was very composed after the game and only said he wanted to see it again. There was no demanding this or that. The tackle reminded me of the one last year when chase broke the jaw of the Featherstone player.



He also didn't need to talk about it the way he did; himself, O'Connor & Hardaker have made it a prejudiced case now and in a real court of law it would be thrown out straight away due to comments made by the mentioned people.



=#FF0000Club coaches have every right to talk about the game and any incidents that occur during that game, he was calm and did not say anything about the tackle apart from wanting to watch it again. As long as coaches show respect to other players and officials then what is your problem. In a real court of law come on grow up, people do talk in the real world.



It was also nothing like the hit on Ropati, have a nice day and please learn the rules of the game.



=#FF0000And the difference between the two tackles was ??????

"And the difference between the two tackles was ??????"



One was a swinging arm the other was a shoulder charge ?

So you was close enough to know he was knocked out from 1 second to lets say 3/4 seconds. Thats how long it took to hit the deck. He was alert straight away when he hit the floor. So for that split second of taking the hit you know for a FACT he was out cold......yeah right.