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| 2009 Season has for me, been a missed opportunity.
We've come 7th, this is not just a measure of how well we we are doing, its also about how well the other teams in the league are doing.
Lets look at who finished below us this year.
Bulls, Cats, Wire and Cods for example. Does anyone really think those teams will be as bad next year?
Then look at the teams around us, Giants, KR, Wakie, Wigan-all decent teams but have been very beatable-I can see them all improving next season.
Loiners and Saints I'll leave alone-they are on another level to the rest of us.
I can't see us improving on 7th next year, in fact we'll struggle for the top ten. We had a golden opportunity to sneak into the top 5 this year, but failed.
With regards to defence, well we don't look to be making the changes necessary to improve. I can see us shipping lots more points in next year.
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| Sack the coach, clearly has no idea of how to manage/coach this group of players, should be at least in the semi's of the play-offs and have the CC in the trophy cabinet. Don't even get me started on the overseas players who have let us down massively whilst world-beating academy players were cruelly denied their chance.
Nothing less than world domination will suffice next season.
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| Quote ParanoidAndroid="ParanoidAndroid"Sack the coach, clearly has no idea of how to manage/coach this group of players, should be at least in the semi's of the play-offs and have the CC in the trophy cabinet. Don't even get me started on the overseas players who have let us down massively whilst world-beating academy players were cruelly denied their chance.
Nothing less than world domination will suffice next season.'"
You sound like a Wigan fan. 
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| Quote ParanoidAndroid="ParanoidAndroid"Sack the coach, clearly has no idea of how to manage/coach this group of players, should be at least in the semi's of the play-offs and have the CC in the trophy cabinet. Don't even get me started on the overseas players who have let us down massively whilst world-beating academy players were cruelly denied their chance.
Nothing less than world domination will suffice next season.'"
So PA, you have no opinion on the season?
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| Quote Tigerpie="Tigerpie"So PA, you have no opinion on the season?'"
I have but it is the complete antithesis of yours, guess I'm just a 'glass is half-full' type of guy 
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| Back on topic...
On reflection my thoughts of a top 4 finish next year are extremely optimistic. Leeds and Saints will be top 4, with the other 6 places up for grabs.
In this years Play Offs Catalans have impressed me. These are a team, that when we play them at home, some of our supporters say ' We should be beating the likes of these'. Disrespectful.
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| Quote Poker Face="Poker Face"Back on topic...
On reflection my thoughts of a top 4 finish next year are extremely optimistic. Leeds and Saints will be top 4, with the other 6 places up for grabs.
Very true, but my point is a valid one. We will be battling it out for the positions below 4th, but against much improved opposition than this year. Just look at how Wire, Bulls and the Cats have finished this year. They will be much more difficult to take points off next year.
Next year will be a tough one for us

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| Quote Tigerpie="Tigerpie"Very true, but my point is a valid one. We will be battling it out for the positions below 4th, but against much improved opposition than this year. Just look at how Wire, Bulls and the Cats have finished this year. They will be much more difficult to take points off next year.
Next year will be a tough one for us
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Unfortunately I've got a bad feeling that this might happen.
Yes we've strengthened the team for next year but so have a lot of other teams.
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| Think your team have done extremely well,you should be proud of them.Next season could be difficult for us all,it really is hard to see what's gonna happen,Cats have come good,Wire will get better,Hull i'm not too sure about and Salford and Celtic will have to improve heaps just to get away from this years finishes.
As for the referee's discissions(sp),I think all fans think they're hard done by but some you win and some you lose.
Enjoy it,the boys done good! 
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| No surprises here.. I think it's been a hell of a season. Undoubtedly aided by the fact that Hull, Bradford, Wire and (to an extent) Quins have all crashed and burned in 2009, but we're not the only ones to have benefited from that and to me this is something we'll have to get used to as fans - the franchise system will throw up surprises.
I know there are those who think this and think that about the board, about the coach, etc, and that's fine - we all have opinions. I'm often left speechless at the wide range of differing views and I happily concede that those with them probably know a lot more about this great game than I do. I do have to laugh though at those who seem to think they somehow know better than the ones who actually have a coaching badge or the ones who've actually put [itheir own money [/iinto furthering the club and its aims.
For me I can't see us improving on our league position much in 2010 - worst case is we'll slip a few spots - but I have to say that (assuming one or two of the aforementioned 'big names' are likely return to some kind of form), i'll be very happy if we can manage to stand still (ie: just about make the playoffs again). Worse than that will be a tad disappointing - albeit understandable. Any better than that (6th or better perhaps) would be f**king astonishing.
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| Quote Disco="Disco"No surprises here.. I think it's been a hell of a season. Undoubtedly aided by the fact that Hull, Bradford, Wire and (to an extent) Quins have all crashed and burned in 2009, but we're not the only ones to have benefited from that and to me this is something we'll have to get used to as fans - the franchise system will throw up surprises.
I know there are those who think this and think that about the board, about the coach, etc, and that's fine - we all have opinions. I'm often left speechless at the wide range of differing views and I happily concede that those with them probably know a lot more about this great game than I do. I do have to laugh though at those who seem to think they somehow know better than the ones who actually have a coaching badge or the ones who've actually put [itheir own money [/iinto furthering the club and its aims.
For me I can't see us improving on our league position much in 2010 - worst case is we'll slip a few spots - but I have to say that (assuming one or two of the aforementioned 'big names' are likely return to some kind of form), i'll be very happy if we can manage to stand still (ie: just about make the playoffs again). Worse than that will be a tad disappointing - albeit understandable. Any better than that (6th or better perhaps) would be f**king astonishing.'"
The trouble with you mate is that you talk sense. believe me its lost on some of the posters on here 
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