Despite the title [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/8301130.stmLeeds deserve their victory[/url



Jon manages to get his usual digs in...

True for the early parts of the game

But he also said this, when he could easily of had a whinge....











A very fair summary, when the guy must have been feeling gutted.

Exactly. Overall I think most of what he says in there is spot on, especially considering how soon after the final the interview must have been done.

Not really. I thought Leeds were rarely under real pressure. I can't think of much possesion Saints had on our line or any clean breaks apart from the flukey kick bouncing straight into Eastmonds hands for his try. Leeds probably had more scoring opportunities and more pressure on the Saints line during the first half.



If Wilkin thinks the Saints pack dominated then he is really living in his own little fantasy world. Saints did defend superbly, I think a lot more points would have been scored by Leeds if they hadn't.



He does make me smile when he whinges about slow play the balls and playing on a watered pitch. I guess he would like a return to the "great" game we had a few years ago where there would be 5 runs from dummy half and a kick. Cunningham/Higham rugby perhaps? Now that was reallllllyyyy entertaining..

If you rewatch the game on Sky its easy to get led into believing Saints dominated large spells of the game (since that's Stevo, Clarke and Eddie's take).



However, for me Carney has it right at half time - Saints had more possession but never looked a threat (their try being the result of a freak deflection). We were much more dangerous and came very close to scoring a couple of times before we actually did.

I think that was the usual case of TV having to tell a "story". For the neutrals or the casual viewer this works okay. It's when those who should know better buy in a well. The "story" was meant to be Sean Long. Anyone would think he had a terminal disease and this was the last game of a legend. I'm sure the Hull fans are thrilled to find out that Sean has basically retired from competitive rugby this weekend.

Wilkin is right. They did dominate the game for a large part. They didn't take their chances though and thats what matters.



Hardly a moan is it?

Interesting question.

You backed Saints and are dismissed as a know nowt whinger.



Take yourself off to the Saints board where you can bellyache with the other half pint sized losers!



This board is for winners!

With regard to watering the pitch - Manchester didnt have any rain for 24 hours and they were scared the grass would die....



As for Wilkin - some good news. Next year when we play them Sleepeasy have decided to make our shirts from their quilted bedding material so when he keep lying on after the tackle it will be nice and cosy for him! Steve picked this up in the live commentary that Stains were lying on after the tackle and slowing Leeds down and that they were getting away with it. Shame Stains Ganson didnt see that at the time.

I dare you to post that on their board.