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| Quote McLaren_Field="McLaren_Field"Its also opportune to remind users that RLFans is not a public forum, its not owned or funded by the invited users and the admins work very hard to keep it financially viable from their own resources whilst at the same time leaving themselves wide open to legal actions for anything that is allowed to remain on these sites that could be even construed as damaging to another party - the BBC don't have to worry too much about such legal crap but the admins here do and personal opinion goes out of the window when anything even slightly dodgy appears.'"
And a very good job you do too.
I may not post here very often but I drop by to browse occasionally and it is definitely one of the best fans forums around in any of the sports I follow.
Keep up the good work and a very Merry Xmas to yourself, your fellow mods and all sports fans everywhere.
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| Quote McLaren_Field="McLaren_Field"Some lazy reporting from a sports reporter and some idle speculation that we should not partake in, given that Mr Hudgell has complained several times to the admins of these sites about similar idle speculation on other boards.
Reading to the bottom of that article it would appear that its a manageable debt, which is often the case in many, many company's, including the Leeds Rhinos those few short seasons ago...'"
Hmmm, how is it manageable when they lost £450,000 this year to go on top of the £3.2 mill they are in debt, with £2.2 milllion having to be repaid in 12 months?
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| Quote World of Redboy="World of Redboy"Hmmm, how is it manageable when they lost £450,000 this year to go on top of the £3.2 mill they are in debt, with £2.2 milllion having to be repaid in 12 months?'"
All debt is manageable, especially when the directors have indicated that they are prepared to underwrite that debt, which is what the article says.
I wouldn't place too much emphasis on figures quoted from a BBC sports reporter anyway, they are more used to exaggerating the size of contracts and transfer fees than to bother to stop and read balance sheets and profit & loss accounts.
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| True, unfortunately those debts are actually showing on the latest filed accounts
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| Having read through the various posts I'd like to ask a few questions. Could KR just declare themselves bankrupt/go into recievership and just clear there debt? (like the London Broncos did a few years ago and start under a new name/ltd company) I mean I know they do it in fussball all the time. I know teams there get deducted points but do the rfl have anything in place to prevent this with the license system? Deduction of points with no relegation seems a option to teams in SL that maybe struggling.
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| Quote Dodgy Dave="Dodgy Dave"Having read through the various posts I'd like to ask a few questions. Could KR just declare themselves bankrupt/go into recievership and just clear there debt? (like the London Broncos did a few years ago and start under a new name/ltd company) I mean I know they do it in fussball all the time. I know teams there get deducted points but do the rfl have anything in place to prevent this with the license system? Deduction of points with no relegation seems a option to teams in SL that maybe struggling.'"
They would end up straight back in the Championship and would have to wait until the next round of franchises (2015) before applying again.
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| Quote Dodgy Dave="Dodgy Dave"Having read through the various posts I'd like to ask a few questions. Could KR just declare themselves bankrupt/go into recievership and just clear there debt? (like the London Broncos did a few years ago and start under a new name/ltd company) I mean I know they do it in fussball all the time. I know teams there get deducted points but do the rfl have anything in place to prevent this with the license system? Deduction of points with no relegation seems a option to teams in SL that maybe struggling.'"
Going bankrupt would not help the club as I would guess the debt is owed to the directors, not a bank. As I couldnt see any bank lending to a superleague club year on year that is losing money unless they are borrowing the money to buy an assets like saints have done with there new ground (Which there not). The team have very little assets as they dont own there ground unless you include the players but they are an intangible assets and should not be included under the companies act and accounting standards as they have no set value and at the end of the players contracts they can walk away for nothing. The only way the investors would get the money back is if a buyer was found that was willing to pay goodwill for the players and the brand name.
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| Quote World of Redboy="World of Redboy"Hmmm, how is it manageable when they lost £450,000 this year to go on top of the £3.2 mill they are in debt, with £2.2 milllion having to be repaid in 12 months?'"
I believe Hull's debt of a few years ago was well over £2.5 million and they seemed to be trimming that down without the succesful local buisnessmen and multi millionaire vice chairman that HKR have on board. It must be remembered Rovers have spent a lot of money on the ground ( since promotion) and the pitch, floodlight improvement and two stand extensions.
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