Or maybe the players have to as they are not getting enough direction from coaching set up. Either way it's not good. The players have too much power or the coaches are clueless!!

Doesn't sound pretty, but if it was Wigan, Saints or Warrington in our place everyone would be saying that an ugly, scrappy win is the mark of a champion side.



We're nowhere near a champion side but at least it illustrates how much of a BS cliche that is.

Quote rhinoms="rhinoms"I saw the YEP Inside RL section on thursday and Pete Smith makes some very valid and fair points about Brian Mc and why he deserves to stay in charge but surely even with those in mind his selections and tactics need questioning.'" www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... _1_3483094 < article here if anyone hasn't seen it!

Quote rhinoms="rhinoms"I saw the YEP Inside RL section on thursday and Pete Smith makes some very valid and fair points about Brian Mc and why he deserves to stay in charge but surely even with those in mind his selections and tactics need questioning.'" www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... _1_3483094 < article here if anyone hasn't seen it!

Twitter game feed was frustrating. Still a win though

I'm sort of glad Radio Leeds couldn't be bothered doing any decent commentary on tonight's game. Reading how we'd dropped the ball a dozen times tonight was bad enough without hearing it as well .

Frogga was guilty most, but with someone 2 foot infront of you and a bullet pass in slippery conditions, who could blame him with 3 or 4 knock ons.



Get out of jail definately used. Didn't deserve the win one bit!

Had Leeds lost against that garbage called Crusaders tonight, this forum would have gone into knee-jerking meltdown of apocalyptic proportions. However, excrementitious performances don't really matter a jot provided the result is still a win, and fortunately for Leeds there are plenty of SL games where an excrementitious performance shall always be sufficient. There's another one next week.



Who cares?



Leeds will finish 5th anyway.

The amount of times Leeds were on the Crusaders line (particularly in the 2nd half) and couldn't score was very embarrassing. Leeds had so much luck in that second half but 9 times out of 10 were not taking the chances.



McDermott walked in front on the Leeds fans to his seat before kick off, no reception from the fans. At half time he walked down the main stand but waited a while until the whistle went so he could walk across the pitch, whether this was to avoid some abuse that was bound to come from the frustrated Leeds fans is unknown. In the second half he was stood on the touchline during the whole half. Not many time you see a coach do that, pressure if you ask me.

Hope the pressure gets to him so much that he decides to quit and take his mate with him. He's pinching his money. Daylight robbery.

Its not that long ago Crusaders beat Huddersfield (albeit under different circumstances) but ATEOTD a win is a win at the moment.

Agreed. Was once a good enough scoreline to win a JP Trophy for Leeds.



Only the second time it's been seen in a Leeds game since the introduction of the four point try:



1-May-62 ….. CHP ….. Away ….. Batley ….. Won 12 ….. 7

23-Oct-67 ….. FT ….. Home ….. Halifax ….. Won 12 ….. 7

24-Mar-73 ….. JP ….. Neutral ….. Salford ….. Won 12 ….. 7

11-Jan-76 ….. CHP ….. Away ….. Featherstone ….. Won 12 ….. 7

27-Nov-77 ….. CHP ….. Away ….. Bradford ….. Lost 7 ….. 12

19-Sep-79 ….. YC ….. Away ….. Wakefield ….. Won 12 ….. 7

26-Dec-87 ….. CHP ….. Home ….. Halifax ….. Won 12 ….. 7

17-Jun-11 ….. CHP ….. Away ….. Crusaders ….. Won 12 ….. 7



In the SL Regular Rounds + Play Offs there have been 2,695 fixtures, last night was the inaugural 12 - 7.

What a load of apologist twaddle, I suppose to be expected from the YEP which has never been even mildly critical of the Leeds management. Identical to the noises coming out of Bradford last season about McNamara. But at the end of the day, both McNamara and McDermott have shown no evidence in their careers that they are capable of halting declining team performances. Hopefully we won't have to put up with McDermott as long as the Bulls did with McNamara, but I won't hold my breath.