I'd be very surprised if that's true, knowing how paranoid the groundsman and his staff are over who touches their beloved pitches.

Quote Viva La Vikings!!="Viva La Vikings!!"Betts seems to think we can make our loan signings permanent. Not sure how much truth is in this but if true I'd be over the moon, be better than a new signing. Class player www.trustinwidnes.com/forum/inde ... 974.0.html Maybe he knows he has a cemented position at widnes were Leeds squad offers a lot more quality. We'll see And before you say, I know he's on a five year contract'" Betts doesnt mention Mcshane he only talks about the Wigan loanies and before you say owt I have read the article its the journo that mentions leeds not Betts

Quote Viva La Vikings!!="Viva La Vikings!!"Betts seems to think we can make our loan signings permanent. Not sure how much truth is in this but if true I'd be over the moon, be better than a new signing. Class player www.trustinwidnes.com/forum/inde ... 974.0.html Maybe he knows he has a cemented position at widnes were Leeds squad offers a lot more quality. We'll see And before you say, I know he's on a five year contract'" Betts doesnt mention Mcshane he only talks about the Wigan loanies and before you say owt I have read the article its the journo that mentions leeds not Betts

I'd be very surprised if the Leeds ground staff allowed this to happen.

All a matter of opinion but right now I wouldn't have McShane in my side ahead of Lunt. Other than an extra kicking option he doesn't offer anything to offset his tendency to go too high defensively.

ABC Radio call in Aus just said that Heighington was coming over to the UK with Ellis.

I think that most people have McShane in a similar bracket to Lunt, with both having some positives over the other. I think people's problem is that if we were to settle for a player in that ball park of ability, why bother shipping one out to bring in a replacement of similar ability, with arguably less potential

Mcshanes cut out pass is far better than Lunts ,his go forward from DH is better imo and also he offers more versatility ,is young enough to still improve and defending is hardly Lunts strong point either.

Mcshane for me every time.

What versatility? He's played a handful of games in the 20s at scrum half - not a position Leeds are short in.

McShane didn't look quite ready to me when he left on loan. I struggled to see what the fuss was about to be honest.



If a sustained run of games at the slightly lower pressure environment at Widnes (no disrespect intended, but expectations are a little different currently) has fixed that he could be an asset next season.



I also harboured a few suspicions about his attitude. Which may be groundless, but there is always more to being part of a squad than just what we see on the field at the weekend, as much as most folk on here seem to be able to coach a side without seeing what happens on the training pitch. Much as the odd poster seems to think he/she would happily select academy players they've never seen play a game... or have left the club.

He has also played at 13 and done it well.

I dissagree.



Agree on the cut out pass, and would also had kicking. But I think Lunt is far more versatile and much better than McShane.



Personally, I think Lunt has been a lot better than given credit for. Has with other players he has been asked to change his game to suit a new style by a coach who is just clueless, but that isn't the players fault. At times you have what Lunt can bring to the table given the opportunity.

You're just being pedantic.