burrow at 9 does not work burrow starting the game does not work.Neither does rotating the same players every week kev is a legend but if i was picking England

squad i would have brough over kev at the moment .He needs a rest but will not drop himself imho our squad needs an injection of fresh legs a few new ideas in attack and a bit of youthful enthusiasm . We have these things at our disposal they are called the u19s

Did Burrow at 9 work during our 8 match unbeaten run? Did Kev need a rest during that run? Or are fekkwitts just knee jerking to a loss?

Indeed, G1.



Although I would like to see a winger from the reserves given a chance, and Watkins moved back to centre.



Getting knocked out of the cup will at least mean some rest this season, as opposed to the previous three, where we have played every possible game, bar 3 matches.

They are, and no matter how well we played in that time, they can't seem to grasp the fact that we were beaten by a very good Huddersfield side on the day. A lot of teams would have struggled to break them down and it was due to their "in your face D" that we made so many errors.



Still, we are a poor team now and the same players who have made us look brilliant in the last 2 months are now over the hill washouts...

Yep - He needs a rest - Against a depleted saints would make sense to me - But what do I know?

It doesn't even take a loss. It can't even be extinguished with multiple Grand Final wins. It's beyond reason

'Brilliant' ? Much improved in defence absolutely, but in attack? ... stuttering at best; especially in the opposition 25. A price paid for Sinfield's new role and Burrow's inabilities as a complete 90 min hooker.



If not next game, when would you start to blood the promising fringe players? Would you, like McDermott, only do so when compelled to, after too many injures no longer allow the juggling of the favoured first 17? Watkins should never have been moved from centre and Ablett should never have been moved from LF.



Sinfield, McGuire and Burrow all probably need a rest....of the three I have suggested resting Mr angry head to accommodate Sutcliffe: Sinfield is too important to leave out altogether and I always anticipate that Burrow will do something to win us a tight match (although that looks less likely with having to be the 90 min hooker each and every week: a role he is not suited to. Admittedly SH is not his ideal role either: a bit of a square peg is our Burrow, but a potential exciting game changer nonetheless....from the bench ideally.)

If Suticliffe is going to be in, then he needs to start the game, not mess about on bench where he will not get a look in with this coach.



I would love to get Sinfield back at loose forward with Ablett and JJB running either side of him. That would free up a half back spot, for a couple of games.



I am not sure why Bailey would be given the shot at prop, as he has show absolutely nothing this season to even be warrinting a squad spot, let alone starting berth.



In truth though I am in agreement with others, in that Saints might not be the game to be switching around. Londong and Cas were most definately the right time to do that, and the coach failed with his responsibilities there.

What do you call worked? Isn't it a 17 man game? maybe the others were covering for any failings at starting hooker. Certianly McShane has changed the game on at least 3 occassions coming on.



Kev has looked shattered since the second game of the season. Been getting some very heavy attention from oppossition defenders and not looked after properly. A half fit Sinfield is still better than most this competition can offer, but that doesn't hide that fact that he is fatigued, both mentally and physically.

The lack of creativity at 6 and 7 over the last few years was covered over by having Brent Webb playing as a half, and having a hand in most of our non-kicking-play tries when in the opposition 20. Hardaker is a superb fullback but he's never going to be that type of player, so McGuire and Burrow need to adjust and step up, if they can. McGuire did last year. We also used to have the Lauititi option near the line, and that's been closed off. Currently we look more dangerous 70 yards out than 7.

This is not a poor Saints side. It's not the vintage of the last 3-4 years maybe, primarily due to injuries. Leeds have a nine-day turnaround, plenty of time to freshen legs and rest up niggles by managing training schedules.



Saints at home, Wigan at the Etihad and Hull FC away is not a run of games to be experimenting. IIRC Leeds have Cas and Widnes on consecutive weekends early next month. That's your window for blooding the likes of Duckworth and Sutcliffe if you want to do it.

I have no problem accepting we were beaten by the better team.it was very close and on another day we would have taken the right options and have got the couple of tries during our spell of dominance in the second period and got the win.



No need for panic.some big games coming in the next few starting with saints so no time for changing it up and we all know by now that is not happening.i would say bring clarkson in as starting second row if delaney is out and bring singleton on the bench as our only change.