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| I agree, the best players often don't make the best coaches.
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| The man deserves some historical recognition and I am pleased for him.
He does not excel in any particular skill (apart from goal kicking of course) and he fully concedes this is the case. However, if you define world's greatest player as somebody who epitomises inspiration and leadership qualities - at least at club level - there can be no argument.
He is the greatest possible ambassador for the game (and sport more generally).
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| Quote nantwichexile="nantwichexile"The man deserves some historical recognition and I am pleased for him.
He does not excel in any particular skill (apart from goal kicking of course) and he fully concedes this is the case. However, if you define world's greatest player as somebody who epitomises inspiration and leadership qualities - at least at club level - there can be no argument.
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Leadership is a skill. Harder to measure than strength or pace or elusiveness, but a skill nonetheless.
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| Where has this myth that Sinfield "isn't the most skillful player" come from? He lacks pace but as far as skill goes he's one of the most best ball handlers (He's no Leon Pryce though) in the game, and over the years he has proven he has all the skills in the book.
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"Where has this myth that Sinfield "isn't the most skillful player" come from? He lacks pace but as far as skill goes he's one of the most best ball handlers (He's no Leon Pryce though) in the game, and over the years he has proven he has all the skills in the book.'"
For all I think he is a legend of the Leeds club, I have to disagree with this. His ball handling for a 6 is not great - often his passes are slightly behind the man, too high/low. He's not poor by any stretch, but his passing accuracy is a way short of most of the top 6's across the world.
Where he does excell is with his game management. In the big games, he bosses the territorial game and the tempo of the game.
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"He lacks pace but as far as skill goes he's one of the most best ball handlers (He's no Leon Pryce though)'"
Forget ball handling. With bottles Leon Pryce is like Bruce Lee.
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| Quote thebloodbath="thebloodbath"Quote thebloodbath="Charlie Sheen"He lacks pace but as far as skill goes he's one of the most best ball handlers (He's no Leon Pryce though)'"
Except he loses it every October
Forget ball handling. With bottles Leon Pryce is like Bruce Lee.'"
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| bet thing about this was when Kev responded to the criticisms and said (not a prefect quote)
"I dodn't pick the award. If i did I'd have given it to Tomkins"
Dont think this has been picked up on as much as it should have. Brilliantly worded cause it's another kick in the teeth for the aussies. The winner was a Pom, and he says " I shouldn't have won it, the other pom should".
Exceptionally well put!!!! That'll ruffle their feathers even more!!! Love it.
Constructively though, it's impossible to compare players playing in totally separate comp's. So I think saying "he's the world's best player" is a little off. .............The role that he has within the club, nobody in the world could perform it better.
In my eyes that's the best justification, and appropriate reason he won it
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| Quote DAVE@CAS1990="DAVE@CAS1990"The role that he has within the club, nobody in the world could perform it better.
In my eyes that's the best justification, and appropriate reason he won it'"
Bang on!
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| Those who doubt Sinfield's passing ability need to take a closer look at his game. Number of times I've seen him throw absolutely perfect cut out passes to put wingers in at the corner, or deft little passes at the line to put a team mate through a gap. He has excellent hands IMO.
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| I can see where people are coming from..... I think a lot of short sighted people need to see something magical before they rate it.
Sinfield doesn't have the "WOW!" factor like Tomkins, Barba et al. He doesn't produce a split second of magic to win a game. He's far too consistant to do that
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Those who doubt Sinfield's passing ability need to take a closer look at his game. Number of times I've seen him throw absolutely perfect cut out passes to put wingers in at the corner, or deft little passes at the line to put a team mate through a gap. He has excellent hands IMO.'"
I agree that he can and does throw some great passes - but he also throws some shockers, he throws a fair few murder balls aswell (JJB is more often than not the recipient of them).
I'm not saying he's got a poor passing game - but there are many in his position with better. I suggest rather than only focussing on the wonder passes he makes (which are to be marvelled at) you take a closer look at his all round passing game - he does have a habit of the pass being just ever so slightly behind the man, too high/low or too flat/late that can slow the attack down at times or lead to the man getting smashed - it's not a massive problem, and I don't want to be seen as focussing on the negatives, because he has so much positive, but I think if you're discussing a players merits, it's only right to talk about both positives and negatives.
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