and comparing sizes in the loo

Yes Leeds did literally demolished Wigan with their gang tackles and were worthy winners.



You have been proven to be wrong two years running in your "assessment" of Brian Mac our Champion coach. Your attempts now to try and wriggle out of your poor judgement and to avoid admitting that you got it wrong is sad for all to see. Best stick to bean counting....eh!

I've seen you use that term after the QSF - did you also use it after the CC - SF.



And which term would you use for the final defeat again?







My assessment is and remains that Leeds are blessed with a Champion group of players. I also saw what McDermott was like without such a talented group to work with.

I hope you're not propositioning me.

But I hope you are.

Nobody disputes that we have a Champion group of players several of whom have been brought into the team and developed by Brain Mac. He also played a part in the more established players early success when playing a key role as assistant coach. It is kind of you to share both your intimate knowledge of his time in London and your renowned coaching assessment...... but on second thoughts I prefer to stick to those that know about these things eg: our captain Kevin .



PS Why do you find it more important to dwell on Cup final defeats than another famous Championship victory?

I'm not dwelling, I'm questioning their validity for inclusion by those who choose to do so as evidence towards a record of achievement. Well done to whoever made the draw but I don't recall competing coaches doing the honour.



While you appear to believe beating Celtic, London, Hull and Castleford (but losing in the final to the first team of any note faced that year in that comp) is of some merit I think Leeds have had a virtually free ride to Wembley and done nothing any self-respecting club wouldn't also have done let alone one crammed full with Champion players.



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And you've still to offer a suitable adjective for Leeds' performances in the Challenge Cup final this year after terming their semi-final win a demolishing of Wigan.

Maybe reaching the Challenge Cup final can be a bit of a lottery, but that being the case it's a frankly unbelievable run of good fortune that leads to you winning that lottery 3 times in a row.



It's a pretty raw deal being a coach isn't it? If you finish lower in the league table than expected, that's down to poor coaching. So surely if you reach EVERY final and pick up silverware in 3 out of 5 (I'm including the WCC as a final, which you can disagree with, but it's a single match with a trophy at the end of it) that must be down to poor coaching. Seems fair. But no, failure is down to the coach, success is down to "champion players."



Im a big fan of our champion players, but Brian Mac would (if he could be d reading this stuff) be wondering what more he has to do. I'm glad you lot don't do my annual appraisal...



I've doubted the guy a few times, but I believe that competitive, professional sport is a results business. His results are, in terms of trophies, better than any other coach over the last 2 years.



So he didn't win stuff with London. Jesus wouldn't have won anything with London.

Nope



It was purely after the Huddersfield game I had doubts

Watching his post match interview on Sky he seemed very emotional out there, almost verging on sad. I wonder if the rumours on him moving on regardless of season result are true. If so, then its sad, but as Leeds coaches go, his record is probably the best with 3 trophies in 2 seasons.

Should have been manager of the year

Congratulations

Those who knocked you must have egg of their faces

Rhinos conquer all! With Hetherington having no boundaries to the use of his cheque book things can only get better for you guys

I don't believe this (first sentence that is; his record in trophies is unparalleled, at least for us). The main reason for my disbelief is that I don't think the team would've cast aside such an obvious motivational opportunity. Had McDermott been on his way out I think it would've been very public knowledge.