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| Quote El Diablo="El Diablo"Given what else he achieved in a Leeds shirt, that seems roughly akin to remembering Sinfield's contributions solely based on his decision to run the penalty at the end of the 2003 final.
Let's not remember the 4 Grand Finals, 2 WCCs and 2 hubcaps we did win. Instead, let's remember the one we didn't win....'"
Sinfield's was a 50/50 call in the heat of battle - Senior's was a calculated decision of sheer selfishness
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| Quote Keith Swiftcorn="Keith Swiftcorn"Are you attempting to f*** Keith Senior over?
Excuse his language BUT that's some b****** joke, surely?'"
Not at all - are you saying any of the above is incorrect?
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Not at all - are you saying any of the above is incorrect?'"
Your are the Gotcha person and I claim my £5
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Sinfield's was a 50/50 call in the heat of battle - Senior's was a calculated decision of sheer selfishness'"
the final choice was the coach. he is the one paid big bucks to make decisions
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Sinfield's was a 50/50 call in the heat of battle - Senior's was a calculated decision of sheer selfishness'"
At worst all that Senior did was to put himself forward for selection, its up to the medical and coaching staff to assess and select him and with such an injury its a simple enough thing to assess - akin to Matt Adamson offering himself to play with a fractured cheekbone in a challenge cup final in the hope that his opposite number wouldn't notice and "accidently" catch him in the face in the first tackle - most teams field players who are carrying injuries every week, its part of the game.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Sinfield's was a 50/50 call in the heat of battle - Senior's was a calculated decision of sheer selfishness'"
Viewed another way, both were gambles that didn't pay off.
In my book the gamble with Senior (who doesn't pick the side by the way) only really and truly backfired when McKenna got injured, which was a shade unlucky.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"I memory will stick will me regarding Keith Senior - he decision to play in the 2005 CC Final when he knew he wasn't fit.
Whilst he may not be greedy he is certainly selfish - that decision helped to prevent his team mates from winning a trophy that should have been within their compass.
His smugness about how they got rid of successive coaches speaks volumes for his character.
As the saying goes "What comes around goes around"'"
Strange, I remember that he went off at half time and it was in the second half that Bai had a brain fart and threw the ball on the floor for Whiting, and then I remember Sinfield softcocking a tackle to let Cooke in late on...
I also remember the fact that an unfit Keith at the time was better than anything Hull had.
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| Can anyone explain why Keith playing cost us that game?
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| Quote loinertillidie="loinertillidie"Strange, I remember that he went off at half time and it was in the second half that Bai had a brain fart and threw the ball on the floor for Whiting, and then I remember Sinfield softcocking a tackle to let Cooke in late on...
I also remember the fact that an unfit Keith at the time was better than anything Hull had.'"
And I remember Tony Smith, in eccentric mode, selecting 2 props in the Leeds 17.
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| Quote Tony Soprano="Tony Soprano"Can anyone explain why Keith playing cost us that game?'"
I am going to say no, because he didn't. IMHO of course.
Would having Barrie on with Ganson reffing have helped one jot? I don't think it would.
And for what it's worth, Ali's Bai's and McKinna's go forward should in practise have more than made up for only two props on paper.
And but for a brainfart and a bit of Motu Tony magic, I'd say it did.
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| Quote loinertillidie="loinertillidie"I am going to say no, because he didn't. IMHO of course.
Would having Barrie on with Ganson reffing have helped one jot? I don't think it would.
And for what it's worth, Ali's Bai's and McKinna's go forward should in practise have more than made up for only two props on paper.
And but for a brainfart and a bit of Motu Tony magic, I'd say it did.'"
Out of interest, and to avoid any accusations of bias. Why have you completed ignored the fact that it is was a boiling hot day, and Leeds tired. Short of players due to been a man short, was a major factor in that. In case it escapes peoples memories we were winning the game until late on.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"Out of interest, and to avoid any accusations of bias. Why have you completed ignored the fact that it is was a boiling hot day, and Leeds tired. Short of players due to been a man short, was a major factor in that. In case it escapes peoples memories we were winning the game until late on.'"
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