I have always assumed that your lack of clear positive vision was because of the chemical smog that drifts over Nantwich from Widnes. Is it getting worse?

England unchanged for Australia game. Wilkin still in: no Bailey or Carvell. Widdop bench.

Thought the coach wanted to implement change?

Jon Wilkin - Won 1 (2006), Lost 5 (2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011)

So to confirm, he is a loser? A soft-cock one at that.

I wonder how many wino's fans were saying he wasnt good enough when they thought he was signing for Leeds. Not many I bet, he did'nt get voted man of steel by the players for nothing. Saying he is not good enough is a joke, lets see if your still saying that after the Aussie game.

Most overrated player in SL by some distance. Absoulutely laughable how he won MOS, can anyone recall him having a good game against a top 4 side??

Cheers, I knew you'd correct me if I was wrong so I didn't bother to look up the facts for myself.

Quite a few, to be fair.

Wigan draw, lost to saints away by 2 and I seem to remember him scoring an excellent try against you lot in the challenge cup. so are u saying u wouldn't have him at Leeds

I wouldn't go that far, I just might not swap what we already had. But you asked how many Leeds fans said they didn't rate him when the rumours were circulating. You could dig out the thread if you like, but I can assure you that not everyone around here thought it was a good idea.



I'd have been quite happy to sign him, but you weren't asking about me.



For the record, I also wouldn't change the England team at the moment. And also, if you read the thread, quite a lot of it has moved onto debating options in the pack, so you're really arguing with the original poster, not any sort of consensus opinion.

Let me guess all the Leeds fans want Bailey in the pack. Carvell would be my first choice.