Hardaker won MOS primarily due to his defensive efforts and his ability to break the line - neither of which had anything to do with the ability of McDermott to coach attacking structures.

Are you conveniently forgetting how much Hardaker’s attacking play improved at Cas?



Other than his broken field threat he was pretty much ineffective in attack when he played for us. We never showed once how to work at creating space for him to exploit.

beat me to it. long range trys. he never chimed in to create like he did at cas.

that side was perfect for McDermott to coach. this set of players isn't. it cries out for structure and shape and organisation

This side is crying out for some prop forwards to be fit and on the pitch

That I can agree with. It’s noticable how Parcell is being criticised at the moment from some. A dummy half’s capability is significantly reduced when the forwards are constantly losing the collisions

Why don't you lot actually talk about the game....just an idea ! Whoops forgot, you have NO chance of losing it.

Whoever said Schofield was a flat track bully must be having a laugh. 37 tries in his debut season for Hull, scoring and setting up great tries on the 1984 tour vs Australia aged 19, 4 tries in a test vs New Zealand, captaining an understrength GB team to a 3-0 series over NZ, the 33-10 Melbourne test, etc etc. He underperformed for Leeds but lack of ability was never the problem. The only reason I raised him was as an actual example of a 'once in a generation' player, as that was the term someone (or more than one) has used to describe Walker.



I just dislike the overhyping, because it puts ridiculous pressure on young lads.

As I said when did he put in a serious performance in a cup final or a deciding test against the Aussies - he never stood up to be counted when it really mattered - beating the Kiwis - plenty of GB players have managed that



All the things you have just stated are flat track bullyism - how many medals did he win?

The chances of Leeds losing are pretty remote - on here there is always much more post match comment than pre match - so don't take it personally.

Scoring and setting up tries against Australia is flat track bullying? Four ties in a test? I think your definition of a flat track bully needs checking.

I note that your ability to talk out of the wrong orifice has now progressed to Gotcha standards. Take a bow.

What did do in the 3rd test in 1992 - what he always did when it really mattered - did a Pryce.