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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"It might be the only reason you can think of, that's your problem not mine.
I don't think my opinion on this fact, yet you think it's fact that their's no possible way it could be true, even though you have the same "evidence" as me.'"
its the only reason that exists and the only one which you have clarified and repeated throughout your posts.
You are going to have to try again with your last paragraph. You don't think your opinion on this fact?
James Child could be getting these games because he is secretly a lizard relative of the queen, you have exactly the same amount of evidence of that as you do that he gets them because of what he likes to do with his willy.
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| Quote Fat Boy="Fat Boy"Some people really need to learn what homophobic actually means.
One of my friends I call (to his face) my favourite faggot. Am I homophobic?
My eldest daughter’s best friend is a gay male, she calls him a lankey puff. Is she homophobic?
My gay daughter often refers to other lesbians as dirty dikes. Is she homophobic?
Maybe some of you straight guys should spend a little time with the LGBT community and understand exactly what they consider as homophobic and what they consider as acceptable banter.'"
Quote Fat Boy="ThePrinter"The elephant in the room.....the guy ticks a certain box of "equality" because of his sexuality. That's why he gets the gigs he does.'" is in no way 'banter' I'm not sure the relevance of your post.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"is in no way 'banter' I'm not sure the relevance of your post.'"
There may not be any relevance to the post you have quoted but try reading the entire thread.
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| Quote Fat Boy="Fat Boy"There may not be any relevance to the post you have quoted but try reading the entire thread.'"
if its regarding hardaker, I'm sure not even he would state it was banter. He said what he said in anger and frustration.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"if its regarding hardaker, I'm sure not even he would state it was banter. He said what he said in anger and frustration.'"
Does that make him a homophobe?
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| Quote Fat Boy="Fat Boy"Does that make him a homophobe?'"
no, not at all. It means he used a homophobic insult in anger.
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| Child gets big games because there is frankly a dearth of actual referees to select from. When I was a season ticket holder at the football I probably saw about 25 games a season. I probably saw about 9 or 10 different refs taking charge of those - I certainly don't remember consciously noticing the same ref being in charge more than 3 times a season max.
In contrast to RL, every time I go to Headingley (or watch a game on television and even the Super League show) it feels that we have the same ref every other week or every 3 weeks. Heck, I then feel the ref from a Thurs game or our game on Fri then seems to be ref again (or at least involved somehow) in subsequent games in that round.
It is either Bentham, Silverwood, Thaler or Child. Or that younger one with blonde hair once in a while. It never seems to be anyone else. 5 refs to cover 12 teams in a 6 matches per round basis. Bear in mind two of those are usually on TV and they are also typically one of the VRs too.
It is a same with the linesmen too - it always seems to be two from that bloke with blonde / grey hair that looks about 50, the tall skinny kid with dark hair who looks about 14, another weedy looking young one with lighter hair if I remember right, plus a couple of others.
It is a complete dearth. In my view I shouldn't be noticing a ref doing more than one game a round and I shouldn't be turning up at a game feeling I saw that ref as recently as I was last watching the rhinos. Half the time it feels that I see the officials more frequently than some of the Rhinos players even - and I am a season ticket holder!
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"no, not at all. It means he used a homophobic insult in anger.'"
Which is the point that I'm trying to make.
People need to distinguish between to the two and are often way to eager to brand someone as a homophobe because they have uttered a homophobic slur.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"Why is his consistent (and this is what needs to be taken on board here) incompetence ignored by his employers, despite dealing with it with others?'"
Is he more competent than Alibert? Yes, even if only for the fact he can capably communicate in the same language as the overwhelming majority of players in the competition.
So if that's the comparison you're trying to draw, IMO you're off the mark.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"its the only reason that exists and the only one which you have clarified and repeated throughout your posts.
You are going to have to try again with your last paragraph. You don't think your opinion on this fact?
James Child could be getting these games because he is secretly a lizard relative of the queen, you have exactly the same amount of evidence of that as you do that he gets them because of what he likes to do with his willy.'"
And you have the same amount of evidence that he doesn't get them because of the idea I suggested.
Also regarding the "only reason" thing. Me and Gotcha have explained our reasons many times between us. Problem is you've continuously just mis-read them so that you can read what you want to see which is basically along the lines of us apparently saying "we hate gays, Child should never be allowed near the sport because he's gay"......when reality is we've written nothing close to what you think we have. Thus why you can only see "one reason", the reason you decided on right from the off and have mis-read posts ever since so that you can stick with it.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"Oh didn't you know, as Smokey pointed out I'm a big massive homophobe. If I see a gay couple on the street I run over and spit on and kick them. When a gay man moved in a few doors down I smashed all his car and house windows with bricks because I hate them so much.
No, really.
Oh and because their seems to be some confusion with a few posters. I haven't questioned his employment of said he shouldn't have a job, but I have questioned why they often throw big games (like Leeds vs Saints) at him when he's never put in performances that warrant getting such a high profile game live on Sky cameras. I mean for the love of god this thread was started by a Wakey fan who had sympathy for us in defeat (when does that ever happen) because he (and most SL fans) have always rated Child as ridicioulsy poor and not good enough.'"
So does he only get these big games in front of the Sky cameras because he's gay and the RFL are pushing some sort of inclusivity agenda? Not accusing anyone of anything, just wondering where the link between the two things comes in?
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Is he more competent than Alibert? Yes, even if only for the fact he can capably communicate in the same language as the overwhelming majority of players in the competition.
So if that's the comparison you're trying to draw, IMO you're off the mark.'"
So Alibert wasn't competent but got games for a certain reason beyond performance ability. In this case his nationality ticked a certain box. If he was English would he have ever gotten SL games???
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