if he had a inspiring 4 nations campaign, i wonder if the boos would still ring out?

McBanana needs to use him the same way we do then.

Yes thats the difference, nothing to do with not being behind a dominantt pack, or being against players far below the level of the Aussies.



You think Tomkins would have been able to reach out over the line with 3 Aussies tackling him....



Its the eqivalent of a player ripping up the championship and then blaming the coach when he does nothing in the SL.

Yes, I would back Sam to score exactly the same try again with 3 Aussies tackling him - Just because Richie Myler cant, doesnt mean Sam cant.

Sam didn't look exactly outstanding in the Exiles game. He looked ok, but not the stuff of which Billy Slaters are made. I'm sure we will get to see if he really can perform when he has to do so under a different regime with different team mates and facing a whole new level of opposition. I think that will be the test of whether Sam Tomkins really is an excellent player.

Just confirming how clueless you are.

You appear to have been banned off the Wigan board and are now coming onto our board to pick arguments with Wigan fans.



It's quite annoying to be honest, I'm not sure I've seen one constructive post off you.

No doubt about it, Sam Tomkins is the best English player we've got at the moment. Everytime he's got the ball the is danger.



England need to use him in the way Wigan do. I honestly think he will trouble the convicts and kiwis as it's impossible to pin him down from fullback as he drifts in and out the game.

Sorry, I'm "siding" with Ron against Mr Side.



Tomkins would never have scored that try against the aussies.

In all honesty I agree with his point on this thread, but every single thread that any Wigan fan posts on he pops up to argue with them.

You have to laugh. The clearer it becomes that Tomkins is the best player in SL, the only criticism left is that he MIGHT not have scored a certain try IF he'd been playing against the Aussies. How many times do you stop and think after one of your own players has scored a try "Hmm, well I suppose he wouldn't have scored that against the Aussies." How many times have great tries been scored in SL by players other than Tomkins and been met with criticism rather than praise on the basis that they might not have scored the same try against the Aussies? It's bonkers! It really is clutching at straws for want of criticism. I mean think about it, it amounts to "Tomkins is only good because he's playing against us, and we're shίt!"

You are missing the point(s). This is not having a go at Tompkins.

1. Tomkins is a great player most saints fans would be delighted if him or his equivalent (if there was one but I can't think of one in this country who is better than him).

2. The try he scored against us was a very poor try to concede. We had ample opportunity to stop him but LMS, Moore and Wello failed miserably. It took some scoring but he should have been stopped as he signalled exactly what he was going to try to do.

3. Ron's and my view's are that the aussie national team would not defend like that and concede such a relatively "soft" try.



I don't see anything wrong with the opinion that tomkins is a fantastic player but he should have been stopped. I think the difference is that you see it as a great try whilst I saw it as a try that we should never have conceded.