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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"Well Mr Shareholder, are we?'"
we are indeed, just one or two less than Eamon
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"we are indeed, just one or two less than Eamon'"
Buy a couple more and sort the club out please?
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"I get them for free once a year, i'll happily sell you my copy for £2k !'"
But it still doesn't really tell you what he wants to know.
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| Quote BackrowSaint="BackrowSaint"icon_lol.gif
Buy a couple more and sort the club out please?'"
If i won the euro millions tomorrow i honestly think i couldnt do a better job than our current boss, i'd probably spring for a heli pad at the new gaff and get Jonathan Thurstons Mrs a £500k/yr job keeping it free of dust
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"If i won the euro millions tomorrow i honestly think i couldnt do a better job than our current boss, i'd probably spring for a heli pad at the new gaff and get Jonathan Thurstons Mrs a £500k/yr job keeping it free of dust'"
I hear that Billy Slater's mum is a brilliant cook, some may say her services are worth upto £350k a year.
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"we are indeed, just one or two less than Eamon'"
We are overpaying for some players then. I suppose this is what happens in the NRL too though. Team wins trophies, everyone wants paying more because they are champions, players end up leaving.
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"We are overpaying for some players then. I suppose this is what happens in the NRL too though. Team wins trophies, everyone wants paying more because they are champions, players end up leaving.'"
Hmm its a tough one, in theory we are paying the current squad the same as the 2006 squad, so by that measure we are well overpaying our current players. However about half the teams in superleague are spending up to the cap, yet we've not missed out on the grand final in 5 years, so by that measure we're getting good value. Nothing is clear cut.
Add to that that Roby and Graham were probably on junior (ish) contracts in 06 and Lyon was playing for far less than his market value and that could explain our dominance that year.
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| I don't think Saints are spending anywhere near the cap. Indeed, I reckon we could be in or near the bottom third for total wage bill in SL.
I think we're scrimping and squeezing every last penny for the ground and McManus is telling everyone we're spending high because we can't afford to lose ANY season ticket revenue.
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"Hmm its a tough one, in theory we are paying the current squad the same as the 2006 squad, so by that measure we are well overpaying our current players. However about half the teams in superleague are spending up to the cap, yet we've not missed out on the grand final in 5 years, so by that measure we're getting good value. Nothing is clear cut.
Add to that that Roby and Graham were probably on junior (ish) contracts in 06 and Lyon was playing for far less than his market value and that could explain our dominance that year.'"
We had four world class players in the squad in 06 in Lyon, Long, Cunningham and Scully, and a pack strong enough to leave Fozzard and Anderson out of final squads. We now have Graham and Roby and kids filling the squad past the first 13.
We were getting good value, but are we this year? I think that there are probably a similar number of average players in there, but there are far more kids expected to be first teamers, and I don't think it's them taking up all the cap space.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"I don't think Saints are spending anywhere near the cap. Indeed, I reckon we could be in or near the bottom third for total wage bill in SL.
I think we're scrimping and squeezing every last penny for the ground and McManus is telling everyone we're spending high because we can't afford to lose season ticket revenue.'"
What and the hundreds of shareholders, who are mostly small holders and fans like myself choose not to tell anyone?
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"We had four world class players in the squad in 06 in Lyon, Long, Cunningham and Scully, and a pack strong enough to leave Fozzard and Anderson out of final squads. We now have Graham and Roby and kids filling the squad past the first 13.
We were getting good value, but are we this year? I think that there are probably a similar number of average players in there, but there are far more kids expected to be first teamers, and I don't think it's them taking up all the cap space.'"
Its definite not as good value as our 2006 squad, of that there can be little arguement, but is it good value compared to the other top 7 squads?
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"Its definite not as good value as our 2006 squad, of that there can be little arguement, but is it good value compared to the other top 7 squads?'"
The problem is that it's getting worse and even though I agree with the aim of replacing from within with youth, I'm not sure the players coming through are good enough to take over.
I'm not sure it is a better squad than Wigan, Wire, Leeds and Hudds though. There are players that are individually better, Roby, Graham, etc. But is Gardner better than Lawrence or Cudjoe? Is Meli? Is their coach just getting more out of his players than ours is?
Of course it could just be the competition evening itself out as more teams spend up to the cap, and that can only be good for the game.
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