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| Quote pedro17="pedro17"Course it is, Was Matt King an Aussie international when he signed. He came for the £££. Cap space for "how ever many you can afford" should be the answer. '"
So taking as many money hungry imports as the budget allows, who are willing to shelve there international career and play in an inferior league in the process, will help our youngsters develop (when they aren't keeping half of the youngsters out of the team, that is)?
Wiganer in 'communist cap' obsession horror. But back to the subject....
If Eastmond wanted to play in the NRL I would be delighted for him, as long as we put a clause in his contract for if he ever came back. Great idea in principle, like other successful small print such as the case of Adrian Morley and Iestyn Harris 
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| Quote Smurf="Smurf"" ...we put a clause in his contract for if he ever came back"'"
Likelihood of legal challenge = high on this one for sure.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Likelihood of legal challenge = high on this one for sure.'"
not sure, bradford nearly went broke for breaking a similar agreement between harris and leeds
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Look, if it comes down to a bidding war with another SL team then yes - break the bank. The fans would torch the new stadium if he went to the Pies. But if the NRL is serious about taking him we will struggle to keep hold. I mean, if you were faced with a choice of McManus or Russell - let me introduce you to my Hollywood pals - Crowe you'd be crackers not to get on the plane. '"
Sure, but that's not really what you were saying originally was it? You said you'd have no problem with him going to the NRL. I think we should do everything possible to keep him, and anyone else with real talent, from going to the NRL because we need his talent here to compete with the NRL not just in international matches but also on a weekly basis. I can fully appreciate the temptation of the NRL but we should do everything we can to avoid losing the likes of Kyle to it. IMO, obviously.
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| Quote McClennan="McClennan"The NRL is like the Premiership compared to Super League being the Championship. The best talent should be playing in the best competitions IMO.'"
No it shouldn't. If we have great talent here then it should be gracing our game and not the game in another country, not least another country that is perfectly capable of producing its own talent. Why should we look down on our own game and keep it at what you say is a lower level? Surely we need to be doing everything possible to facilitate home grown talent remaining in this country so that the standard of our national competition grows and our chances on the international front grow likewise?
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Sure, but that's not really what you were saying originally was it?'"
I would have no problem with his decision. That is not to say I wouldn't be mightily depressed.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"I should have mentioned this earlier (I've been keeping away to retain what shreds of sanity I possess) but an old (and usually reliable) contact from Usenet days who works in the Aussie media told me there was a hell of a lot of NRL interest in both Eastmond and Tomkins around the time Eastmond signed his two year deal. Preliminary contact was made with Eastmond by at least one club. He is certain that Tomkins will receive a massive NRL offer when his contract is up. Ditto Eastmond, but there is a lot of Union interest too. Which is problematic because even the NRL can't outbid the rugger buggers.
I don't have a problem with either going down under. I'm sure they'll do fine. But if Eastmond goes to Union (and I have a nagging suspicion that he might) I'll jump off a cliff.'"
Your usenet buddy was correct. It was souths
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"No it shouldn't. If we have great talent here then it should be gracing our game and not the game in another country, not least another country that is perfectly capable of producing its own talent. Why should we look down on our own game and keep it at what you say is a lower level? Surely we need to be doing everything possible to facilitate home grown talent remaining in this country so that the standard of our national competition grows and our chances on the international front grow likewise?'"
I agree with your sentiment but I am also interested in our British players getting better as well and currently playing in the NRL can help that. Players who have ambition want to test themselves at the highest level so I wouldn't begrudge Eastmond trying his luck in the NRL but going to Yawnion is a completely different matter.
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| Quote McClennan="McClennan"I agree with your sentiment but I am also interested in our British players getting better as well and currently playing in the NRL can help that. '"
I really don't understand that rationale. They may well get better but they won't be playing for our clubs so how would that positively affect our game?
Quote McClennanbut going to Yawnion is a completely different matter.'"
I'm confused. He wouldn't be playing for Saints or for any British club so what is the difference between him going to the NRL or to Union?
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"I really don't understand that rationale. They may well get better but they won't be playing for our clubs so how would that positively affect our game? '"
I would imagine that if they improve their game by playing in the NRL then we stand a better chance of turning over the Aussies which is important to me.
Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"I'm confused. He wouldn't be playing for Saints or for any British club so what is the difference between him going to the NRL or to Union?'"
Because I want a talent like Eastmond to stay in the game. You appear to be focussing on Saints and Eastmond's importance to us whereas I am more interested in assessing his worth to our sport and in particular British rugby league. If he's going to play over here then I want it to be at Saints. If he wants to go the NRL then I will wish him the very best of luck. If he wants to go and play Yawnion then I'm not interested in him at all.
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| Quote McClennan="McClennan"I would imagine that if they improve their game by playing in the NRL then we stand a better chance of turning over the Aussies which is important to me.'"
You are assuming that he would want to play for England should he end up in the NRL?
Quote McClennanBecause I want a talent like Eastmond to stay in the game. You appear to be focussing on Saints and Eastmond's importance to us whereas I am more interested in assessing his worth to our sport and in particular British rugby league.'"
I still don't understand. You say you want him to be of value to the British game but you would be happy/not concerned/whatever to see him leave it?
Of course I am focusing upon Saints. He is a Saints-grown talent and I want our talent to stay with us. If he feels the need to move from Saints then I want British talent to stay within the British game. IMO, Kyle would be lost to the British game whether he went to the NRL or to Union, as neither are the British RL game.
Your distinction between Union and the NRL is totally lost on me I'm afraid. They both equal a loss to Saints and British RL of a talented player to me.
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