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| Quote Stirlingshire Saint="Stirlingshire Saint"There we have it.
Stuart Fielden at his very best made less metres, less carries, less tackles, more errors and more missed tackles.
Yet this guy could go really well in the NRL yet Graham not as good ?
Okkkkaaayyyyy........'"
Fielden would stand no chance in the NRL. In the NRL the other props, like Price, Moimoi are a lot bigger compared to him. |
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"Terry was alright but 43 missed tackles? Its no good having great attacking game if you cant tackle. (penny anyone)'"
That's not a bad stat. Only two a match which is not bad for a prop who is putting himself about a lot. It just so happens that Jammers tackle success percentage is outstanding. |
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So you finally agree i am right Stuart Fielden and James Graham are two different types of Prop Forward and therefore cannot really be compared with each other to an extent...
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| Quote Offside Monkey="Offside Monkey"But he shows up quite well in [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2003&hp1=260&hs2=2004&hp2=29&stat=tries&season=2009this comparison[/url with his old pal.
Since we're comapring "similar types of props", thought [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2008&hp1=1885&hs2=2003&hp2=558&stat=tries&season=2009this[/url would be an interesting comaprison for Jammer. F*ck me, terry was a good prop - look at those yards per carry (doesn't look like he had to do as many minutes, mind).'"
If Terry was a good prop, then Jammer is world class, he's outplayed O'Connor in almost every stat. |
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| Quote The Joker®="The Joker®"So you finally agree i am right Stuart Fielden and James Graham are two different types of Prop Forward and therefore cannot really be compared with each other to an extent...'" The stats seem to confirm this |
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"The stats seem to confirm this'"
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| Quote ~ No1 Saints Fan ~="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"If Terry was a good prop, then Jammer is world class, he's outplayed O'Connor in almost every stat.'" Who's better, a prop that makes 500 carries for 3000m or one that make 250 carries for 2000m?
Jammer's high number of carries are somewhat forced upon him due to him normally being our only fully fit prop and playing longer minutes than other props, something that's not particulary indicitive of their ability.
Graham does have a huge work rate anyway, which is displayed when your regulary see him chase back to cover breaks and covering kicks through - that's not covered in stats.
Don't just look at the stats and say - he's better cause those numbers are higher and these are lower. |
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| Quote The Joker®="The Joker®"At least we got there in the end...
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"graham is still better than Stuart Fielden at this moment in time.
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| Quote The Joker®="The Joker®"Yes i totally agree leeds are rubbish and saints are superior in everyway...
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"My dream is to one day see the 2nd best outfit in the European Super League St Helens defeat the great Leeds Rhinos at Old Trafford in the Super League Grand Final.'"
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| Quote The Joker®="The Joker®"i truely hope that one day leeds will be as great as saints, i admire their long running success and only wish we could ever be that dominant i would love us to win the challenge cup as it is nearly as important as the hubcap which i now understand is far more valuable than the grand final...
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