Another arm chair following feckw!t. Stroll on Chuckles.

If McGuire has a bad injury as a result of his unbelievable cheating, then whilst i don't wish injury on anybody, nevertheless as a statement of pure fact, at least there will be some consequence to Leeds for his cheating, to set off qualifying for the semi by cheating. McGuire should be banned from at least the next match anyway if there was even a bit of justice, for bringing the game into disrepute.

Just for the relevance of highlighting something here. Of all the decisions for holding back this year (and there have been many) did you hold the same view that they should have also been banned?



I suspect you didn't, and if that is the case then you need to jog on with the rest of the idiots from Wigan. You have just gone from a highly respected poster to a numbnut in one post.

That's poor form on your part. Again, you had credence as a poster, but that blows that out of the water.



Disrepute? For what? Committing a foul? Which incidentally and technically wasn't one since it wasn't penalised, but no matter. We concede penalties as much as the next side but I wouldn't play paragon of virtue and demand Langley is banned as a result of his high penalty count, intended or otherwise. Similarly for punch ups which have a more logical intention.



Take out the Leeds factor and the man in question and your view may have been less spurious.



Again, poor form. The fall out of knee-jerk feckw!tted reactions to this game is incredible. The fact is, it was a great game irrespective of the ludicrously jaundiced views that are being banged out on keyboards across the north.

There were far worse offenses in that game than McGuire's, and it was in no way deserving of a ban.

I expected better from you, and almost as classless as this fekkwit from the VT:







Sour grapes indeed.

Oh, what did I miss. Did McGuire kill someone with his bare hands and get away with it again?

But Tomkins gets away with that little "play" all the time. It is time that the refs started doing something about it. He did it against us didn't he, with Worrincy of course to blame.

What he said.

I don't think FA's is nearly as bad, as he's hoping the player gets a ban, rather than an injury. While I don't necessarily agree it deserves a ban, I don't think there's anything wrong with suggesting the player deserves that. It's just an opinion and doesn't wish any ill-harm on the person.



Those suggesting he deserves an injury though, and especially saying he deserves to be out for 10 months, are quite frankly, the sort of @rseholes I really don't want supporting this club or this sport. I have nothing but contempt and disgust for that sort of attitude and that sort of person.

Precisely.



Who knows if McGuires knee hyper-extended and he grabbed out in pain. Who knows if it was intentional. Who knows if the Leeds cover would have got to Carmont. Who knows what would have happened had Joel Tomkins been binned. Who knows what would have happened had Sam Tomkins not conned 3 penalties out of the referee. Pure conjecture.



Rhinos won a classic game. Simple. Had Wigan committed the same alleged act, the standpoint of many on here and the Wigan boards would be very different.



Said fans who sit in judgement with their Sky Plus replays and don't take into account the real high speed play, with fatigue involved by blokes who actually put their bodies on the line. But no, let's all judge what really happened via Eddie Hemmings.



'Kin unbelievable.

Context is all. If it had been done earlier in the match then (a) the opposition still have a chance to win and (b) the cheating player gets 10 minutes in the bin, which hands a big advantage to the opponents.



In this case (a) he has deliberately and cynically prevented any chance of what WOULD be the matchwinning try; and (b) he cannot usefully be sinbinned, as there isn't 10 minutes left.



I would be happy if, to discourage such, the ref would give a penalty try in such a blatant case. If it happened earlier then a sinbinning is at least a significant detriment but it was the cynical nature of what he deliberately did which, coupled with the critical timing, that IMHO sets it apart from most 'professional foul' cases.



In any case, what are you saying? That a player in those circumstances may as well deliberately foul every time, indeed may be expected to do so by his coach and fans, as the reward may be huge, and the risk non-existent? Is that your idea of a fair rule? My problem with it on the other side of the equation is that by denying Wigan the clear chance to win in that cynical way, McGuire seems to be doing so with impunity. A penalty in Wigan's half would be totally inadequate compensation for Wigan, and a totally inadequate "punishment" for McGuire's offence.





Well, I would have no objection to such blatant cheating being referred to the disciplinary panel in other instances (as well as this) as it is well outside the spirit of the game. It's totally different from players straying close to the line, it was the pure cynicism of it that sets it apart. I would like to see ANY player committing a foul as premeditated and cynical as that get a sinbinning as a minimum, and failing that, answer to the disciplinary. Otherwise inevitably when there is no downside, players will choose to do it every time. I would like to see the ref take, or even have, the option to award a penalty try in blatant cases or, if not blatant enough for the ref's liking, then the penalty should be awarded under the sticks.



By some sort of analogy, in soccer, a deliberate handball on the line gets you sent off and suspended. I would prefer that the ref there had the option of awarding a goal but as he doesn't, then the offender at least will pay with a ban, and the analogy breaks down a bit as the other team should score anyway from the ensuing penalty, though the option of awarding a goal would be fairer as there is still a chance that the pen will be saved and that rewards the offending team.



Anyway, you seem happy to let Leeds and McGuire profit from what McGuire (and Donald) did. In my eyes that makes you look more like a "numpty", as to me, that's not rugby league.



PS I'm not from Wigan, I'm from Bradford, and would have chosen the Yorkshire team to support against the Lancashire team, all other things being equal.

Pretty much everyone on the planet who saw it.

HTH