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@marcngreen: Totally blown away by amount of you who've joined 1863 Club. We're a massive club & you continue to strengthen its beating heart. Thank you

so I guess, a bit like Pudsey, there are many mixed and cross allegiances. I know Fax, or at least their fans, moaned about the Bulls targetting the Shelf area with match adverts but it's not much over a couple of miles from Odsal, at the end of the day.

I always felt Shelf roundabout was the boundary, pretty much running from the lights at Queensbury, through Hipperholme with Brighouse being the border with Huddersfield. I've no idea whether this corresponds to any real boundary or whether it is some kind of ancestral thing like Palestine pre-six day war.



Having thought about I believe Bailiff Bridge and Northowram were given to us by God. There!

Shelf roundabout [ Stone Chairis quite near the boundary between Shelf and Halifax, though both are in Calderdale, of course. The Shelf/ Bradford boundary is actually a stream which flows under the main Bfd/ Hx road alongside the former [now business units Dunn Ridsdale dyeworks, which is about 50 metres after the top end of the Woodside estate when travelling towards Halifax.



The stream meanders around quite a bit, at one point passing under Cooper Lane just a bit below the end of Reevy Rd, which means the bottom end is in Shelf whilst the top bit is in Bradford. I could have given you the house numbers for the boundary when I used to deliver papers around there, however my mind is now so stuffed full with rubbish I seem to have forgotten them....

Yes but they're only in "Calderdale" if you treat "Calderdale" as a legit place, it isn't, it's a purely bogus virtual admin area like "Humberside" or "Greater Manchester". When I lived in Shelf we were at the right side of Stone Chair yet had to pay council tax to "Calderdale". Well they may be able to take your money but they can't take your soul. Sob.

RIP Queensbury and Shelf UDC?

Ferres in today's T&A says we've passed the 1500 mark.



I'm still yet to get mine, I'll wait until January I think.



Anyway, as you were.

Born and bred in Northowram and would always have my passport with me if I went past Shelf roundabout. And ALWAYS a Fax supporter so no more of your rubbish.

AH, the token Fax fan from Shelf.......

TBF Northowram is [imiles[/i the wrong side of Stone Chair so it's fair do's. What I like about Northowram (and I bet Norman loves this too) is that's where they change the name of Halifax Road, which runs all the way from the wrong side of Odsal roundabout, into "BRADFORD ROAD" all the way through Northowram. They obviously couldn't stand to see the H word ...



It'll be like a daily dose of sunshine, that!

To be fair to Norm FA, I don't think there are many Bradford Roads in Bradford either...



Huddersfield is the same, if you follow Huddersfield Road to its logical conclusion you'll find it's become Bradford Road..sneaky sods, it's as if there is some cachet in linking to more famous and enlightened places.

1863rd season ticket sold yesterday. Suspect there will be a bit of a surge in sales next few weeks with people buying as Xmas presents. Not sure if we'll reach the 4k target but I expect us to comfortably get past 3k now.