We need as much continuity/consistency as we can muster. Get Toovs to stay for next year then review where we are after a full preseason and season...

Well, I'll accept it's not a full blow by blow account of every minute he spent there, (as I'd never heard of him before he came over it was all blagged from the internet, tbh

) but as a thinned down precis, covering the bare essentials, I think it sums up the differences between his job at Manly and his current one here at the Bulls and, in that sense, I feel it is certainly objective, if nothing else.



Now he [imay[/i turn out to be the best coach we've ever had, [iand[/i be chosen for our 'team of the 21st century', and no-one would be more pleased than me if this turned out to be the case, but, and this is the whole point of my original post, I just don't see anything that jumps out from his previous coaching experience to suggest he is the man for our particular set of circumstances.



I hope he's given the owners something more solid about his intentions though, as they definitely need to get something sorted PDQ if he is leaving. Though I suppose it could be him who doesn't know if they want him to stay. Damn all this tight lipped stuff.....

He's maybe waiting to find out at the fans forum. Transitioning out of these circumstances is obviously occupying all of Chalo's time.

and dont forget theres "a lot happening"

That fans forum that's been coming "next month" for about 6 months. They'll do that thing again where they have a specially invited forum of "random" fans who spent over £200 in the shop, or who are sat in the Wetherspoons in town at midday in their Bulls shirt, already half cut.

I'm also rather tired of being in transition.

Me too but that's a different story..

Smith doesn't cover himself in glory up to Admin 3. As for Toovey he admitted himself that in any other job he would be gone. He thinks the UK loan system is barmy nothing remotely like it in Aus. He seemed fully committed to the cause just needs a settled squad.

I agree about the loan system, it's barmy, but it is designed for our unique (British) circumstances.



Without a proper reserve grade, how else would many young players coming out of the academy play in a suitable environment, which is both beneficial to their own development and which also benefits the clubs? From our own, admittedly special, point of view this season we wouldn't have had a squad without the loanees and DRs, we'd have been down to playing all the academy lads, whether they were mature enough or not. Even with the loaned players a few of our 'kids' have been flogged a bit more than is good for them, imo.

What about Nobby - got experience of the upper end of League 1





(Not actually a serious suggestion, but it is officially law that Brian Noble must be linked to the head coach job every time it comes into question)

Agreed. It probably ensured we completed the season for the RFL but in ensuring we were competitive and providing a proper pathway for young players it utterly failed.



I want to see assurance from the club that we're not going down this road again in 2018.

Well, while he's not really had 2 minutes in the job, officially at least, let's be honest since he was officially signed up, we've served up hopeless cack for the most part. We didn't even get a dead coach bounce. (Or should that be new coach bounce?) We didn't need to tear up trees, but that big zero points, regardless of everything else, is sadly just not good enough.



Maybe he'll be great in years to come, but is he what we needed and need right now? I'd say the evidence shows clearly not. But then I am a tad biased as I don't understand why they didn't stick with Rohan, who had more than show his loyalty, and so I presume would have stayed if a suitable deal was offered, and can't see why a deal acceptable to Toovey wouldn't have been acceptable to Rohan.



I do think though that Toovey has the basic ingredients of being a future good coach, personal experience, loads of abrasiveness and plenty of attitude. May take a while to polish it all though. And if he stays, then without doubt on paper at least we'd have easily the top coach in the division.