If you ignore Greg Bird.







Nonsense.







The thing is, you have no idea how SoL would have performed this series. He might well have played as well as, if not better, than Sinfield.



To use Sinfield playing well as a platform to have a pop at a player who is devastated to be missing a series through injury just proves you're more bothered about Leeds players in the England team than the England team itself.



Congrats to Sinfield on his performances, I am as delighted for him as I am disappointed for SoL for missing out on the chance of playing international RL again.

I’m as disappointed as yourself.



After all SoL was instrumental in the 2007 series - it would have been great if we had him of that form in this series as well. As far as I’m concerned the more good players in the England international set up the better regardless of what club they come from. I’ve probably tripped myself up arguing in SoL corner but I still stand by my point that Sinfield is the better player.

Both are cr4p.

Get lost.

Who was it Morgan was calling for international honours again

Sinfield's workrate is outstanding.

Sinfield has finally started to do what Sean O'Loughlin has been doing for a number of years(when available) and thats play well at international level.



It's about time tbh but nobody can take away how well he's played in this series. He was pretty poor for the main against France but has stepped upto the plate when it's really counted in the big games.



I'm happy for him because he seems a decent bloke.

It's good but I bet O'loughin makes more meters, has a better tackling engine and I cant really recall Sinfield making many breaks.

I'd rather have Sinfield but if you've got a creative 6 + 7 with good kciking games, something nearly every team in the SL lacks you shouldnt need a ball playing loose

For me sinfield is a far better organiser, but SOL is a far better defender (he is a tackling machine) and makes more yards going forwards. Differant sorts of loose forwards for me.

Sean O'Brotherinlaw has come on a lot since the days when I thought he wasn't even averagely good, I've got to admit that.



He's a plain, honest-to-goodness, no-frills player.

Nothing wrong with that.



Golden Boot?

If he ever gets within loudhailer distance of it, there's something strange going on.

Not sure what sort of fish Damo was angling for, but I'll say the following -

A couple of years back I didn't rate O'Loughlin. However, in the 2007 series he showed he could transfer his game to the international scene well. Since then I've taken extra interest in his game and been very impressed with his physical defence and all round forward's game.



I have always respected Sinfield's contribution for Leeds, and the past 3 years have seen him acheive an awful lot. However, in my yearning to match the aussies consistantly, I bemoan the fact that our international side requires a 3rd player after the half backs to take charge of the distribution and kicking game.



Sinfield (when he's not been dipping in at hooker) has been asked to do for England a similar role that he does for Leeds, and he's done it well, there's also no question in my mind over his heart, commitment or workrate

BUT

If Eastmond and Tomkins are our future halfbacks then they have the talent and ability to to the kicking, distribution and organising between them, which would mean that a playmaking 13 like Sinfield would be less needed and I would go for a more physical 13 - SoL would be my first choice.

Thing is O'Loughlin isnt a bad distributer either, he's got a fantastic cut out pass but Sinfields kicking game is top notch.

As you say though, that's the 6 and 7's job, Aus dont use Hindmarsh or Gallen et al to do it

I've always rated both players but my concern was Sinfields size in the back row. Smith has found his best position now at international level and should use him as the regular #9.



O'Loughlin is another who IMO has copped undue flak purely because he was Farrels bro in law. I mean WTF.



O'Loughlin is a good hardworking 13 who can dish it a bit and as has been said earlier, if your half backs give you the flair then your 13 can do the graft.