It is stupid and it was one sided for the last 20 minutes VERY onesided.



46-16..well I call it one-sided.



And dont forget we had our first try disallowed and many officials disagreed with that,it was a very debatable point.

I was very proud of England for 60 minutes when they matched them toe to toe. For the last 20 minutes, though, I was very embarrassed by England because they capitulated. They decided not to bother defending anymore but instead opted for the easy course of letting their backline run riot. I hope the boys are proud of that because I wasn't. I'd frozen by butt off for over three hours and cheered my head off each time they scored, looked close to scoring (a number of times) and defended well. At least they could have lost with dignity.

And don't forget that Slater had a clear knock on given as a try, so things balance out.



What you're whinging about when you actually won I have no idea. But you Aussies whinge at anything and everything.

What were the medal totals in the last Olympics again?

Three MAJOR turning points in last nights game..



1. Burgess not passing to Tomkins with he line begging to make it 12-0



2. Tomkins having a penalty against him for not playing the ball properly when the Aussie player was all over him, they went down field and score in the next set of six.



3. Alfie Langer spending the whole first half coaching on field, directing their defensive line and calling the plays in attack.



Would have been a totally different game

The Inglis try also.



England ahead at half time - different game OR

16-16 with 15 to go - different game

Tony Smith has resigned as coach of the England rugby league side.

Yes, just how many medals did English players earn?

Thats a shame, i thought he was doing ok.



Positives- destroying the Kiwis 3-0 in the test series,including a 44-0 win.

Getting us to the four nations final.

Having the balls to drop big name players like Pryce, Burrows, McGuire, Gleeson etc and bringing in youth.



Negatives-

The World Cup.

Added a negative of my own

Are you banging on again? You just compared Burgess & Peacock to carthorses & now you're making it sound like we've never beaten you in 37 years.



Slag us off as much as you want. We are gracious in defeat, unlike you in victory. So as i've said a few times already on this thread 'well done'.



You personally remind of the old joke....Whats the difference between Australia & a yoghurt? If you left a yoghurt for a few hundred years it would develop culture.

Totally agree. The record books will show the score alone and not how close the game was in reality. That last 20 minutes was extremely disappointing. I had driven up from the Midlands (not the ends of the earth, I know) via several diversions thanks to an M1 closure for the most of the day. I don't think the crowd helped in that last 20. The ground was half empty by full time! Some may say cause, some may say effect, but some of the people sat around me arrived 10 minutes into the game and left 15 minutes before the end. And they weren't Wiganners ! What kind of message does that send to the players? The Kiwis can stage a comeback, so why couldn't we ?



In some respects our players seemed a little naive. I guess that comes with the relative inexperience some have at international level. Having said that, I was proud of their energy and passion compared to the "old school". Until the last 20 that is..........



I haven't seen the game again yet, so I'll reserve judgement on some of the "decisions" until then.