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| Brilliant, so we have a season where Fev's only aim is to win 5 of the last 8 games, and the rest are irrelevant, thats what will get the sponsors interested and fans through the door.
22 game pre-season and 8 game season.
Its funny how easy championship fans think the step up will be. That all they need is a little extra money and they will be a competitive mid-lower SL side. When in reality we already know what a championship squad with a little extra money and a few extra players looks like. Leigh put 5 points on the board. Halifax ended with 0.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Brilliant, so we have a season where Fev's only aim is to win 5 of the last 8 games, and the rest are irrelevant, thats what will get the sponsors interested and fans through the door.
22 game pre-season and 8 game season.
Its funny how easy championship fans think the step up will be. That all they need is a little extra money and they will be a competitive mid-lower SL side. When in reality we already know what a championship squad with a little extra money and a few extra players looks like. Leigh put 5 points on the board. Halifax ended with 0.'"
Wondered how long it would be before the local troll turned up
Funny how Superleague fans who have watched team be mismanaged for years believe its so hard.
you know what I mean, of course they will try and be competitive, but they dont need to try and win SL in one season.
Next you will be telling me that having a 3 year franchise is better because in your first season you dont have to spend like mad to stay in the league and you can build gradually - oh wait .....
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| Quote fevfan76="fevfan76"Wondered how long it would be before the local troll turned up
Funny how Superleague fans who have watched team be mismanaged for years believe its so hard.
you know what I mean, of course they will try and be competitive, but they dont need to try and win SL in one season.
Next you will be telling me that having a 3 year franchise is better because in your first season you dont have to spend like mad to stay in the league and you can build gradually - oh wait .....'"
i wonder if anybody told widnes that. it is obviously better and in 5 years all the championship clubs will be ed because they don't have a fair footing and can't gain promotion bar the odd cases. not mentioning the yo-yoing of average players.
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| Quote fevfan76="fevfan76"Wondered how long it would be before the local troll turned up
Funny how Superleague fans who have watched team be mismanaged for years believe its so hard.
you know what I mean, of course they will try and be competitive, but they dont need to try and win SL in one season.
Next you will be telling me that having a 3 year franchise is better because in your first season you dont have to spend like mad to stay in the league and you can build gradually - oh wait .....'"
yeah like Widnes, Like Salford, Like Les Catalans.
My team makes a profit, has won numerous titles with a squad built around young local players it developed, it owns its own stadium and has an average attendance larger than the entire village of Featherstone.
They arent mismanaged. They are managed very very well.
Your problem is that you need to believe that the worst of Super League is representative of the whole of Super League. It isnt. Being better than our worst, will not get you close to the likes of Widnes or Salford next year, never mind the likes of Les Catalans, Huddersfield, Leeds, Wigan, Saints, Warrington, Hull, Hull KR.
Featherstone first team now would probably have 20 points put on them by Leeds or Wigans 2nd team.
We have already seen the likes of Hardman, Briggs, Moore, James, Ellis, Crossley, Sharp, Dale, Saxton at SL level and they weren’t up to scratch. And these aren’t your Amor’s your Walmsley’s your Hill’s who were young and dropped out and came back a bit more mature. These are players at their peak and older. Fev's squad is probably at least 15 players away from being a competitive SL squad.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"yeah like Widnes, Like Salford, Like Les Catalans.
My team makes a profit, has won numerous titles with a squad built around young local players it developed, it owns its own stadium and has an average attendance larger than the entire village of Featherstone.
They arent mismanaged. They are managed very very well.
Your problem is that you need to believe that the worst of Super League is representative of the whole of Super League. It isnt. Being better than our worst, will not get you close to the likes of Widnes or Salford next year, never mind the likes of Les Catalans, Huddersfield, Leeds, Wigan, Saints, Warrington, Hull, Hull KR.
Featherstone first team now would probably have 20 points put on them by Leeds or Wigans 2nd team.
We have already seen the likes of Hardman, Briggs, Moore, James, Ellis, Crossley, Sharp, Dale, Saxton at SL level and they weren’t up to scratch. And these aren’t your Amor’s your Walmsley’s your Hill’s who were young and dropped out and came back a bit more mature. These are players at their peak and older. Fev's squad is probably at least 15 players away from being a competitive SL squad.'"
lol yeah leads are doing well and so is the fev contingent leeds dont have an average crowd of 18000. While on the subject of population then Fevs attendance per population is miles better than leeds
At least with the new system if a team does go up they will be worthy of it. Widnes the season they went up lost by an aggregate of over 90 points to fev. they had much more to make up to be competitive than a team winning it from 2015 will have to do.
Leeds are well managed currently another 13 teams in superleage, not all are well managed like leeds
End of the day I will wait and see, Im not gonna start using speculation and opinion as facts like you always do
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| Quote fevfan76="fevfan76"lol yeah leads are doing well and so is the fev contingent leeds dont have an average crowd of 18000. While on the subject of population then Fevs attendance per population is miles better than leeds
'" Fev dont have population of 18k, its 15244 at the last census. Leeds average attendance is more than 15k.
You can have your attendance per population, take it to the bank, see if you get more money for it. I think you will find you wont.
Quote fevfan76At least with the new system if a team does go up they will be worthy of it. Widnes the season they went up lost by an aggregate of over 90 points to fev. they had much more to make up to be competitive than a team winning it from 2015 will have to do. '" And Widnes had the time to turn things round and create the team we are seeing now. Which is now in its third year.
Widnes, despite having months to prepare, despite having years to get their infrastructure sorted and everything in place still finished bottom in their first year. The new system gives clubs less time to prepare, less time to get things sorted, and only one year to finish outside the bottom 4 to stay up,.
Quote fevfan76Leeds are well managed currently another 13 teams in superleage, not all are well managed like leeds'" Not all are you are right. But bar one or two, all are closer to being managed as well as Leeds than as badly as Bradford.
Quote fevfan76End of the day I will wait and see, Im not gonna start using speculation and opinion as facts like you always do'" are you sure? Quote fevfan76="fevfan76"Broncos would be bankrupt (again) within 6 month in the championship
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Championship teams have been running on a shoestring for years. They have learnt to keep their house in order and had to find other ways of generating income. Unlike a lot of super league teams who have been lazy, just relying on SL handouts and Rich backers..'"
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| Quote fevfan76="fevfan76"lol yeah leads are doing well and so is the fev contingent leeds dont have an average crowd of 18000. While on the subject of population then Fevs attendance per population is miles better than leeds

At least with the new system if a team does go up they will be worthy of it. Widnes the season they went up lost by an aggregate of over 90 points to fev. they had much more to make up to be competitive than a team winning it from 2015 will have to do.
Leeds are well managed currently another 13 teams in superleage, not all are well managed like leeds
End of the day I will wait and see, Im not gonna start using speculation and opinion as facts like you always do'"
Do they also pay the extra to make up the difference which is the only way an average would matter? don't think so.
Widnes was worthy of it and the past 2 seasons prove it, they have the structure for super league majority of championship clubs don't. Any club can be made into a decent team.
Yes and those clubs that wasn't well managed should have lost the license and been replaced correctly, it was the RFL that failed not franchising but they made the right decision in choosing Widnes.
Fev could be better than Leigh all season and if Leigh finish 2nd and fev 1st it then matter who signs the best of an average bunch because 3 months isn't long enough.
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| Several clubs failed in the short period that we had a licensed league,twist and squirm all you want,thats whats happened.
If bradford & Wakefield had been relegated out of the licensed league when they went into"what should have been"unacceptable financial meltdown,we would still have licensing now.
Instead we now have the same clubs being given 400k from the 2017 tv deal just to prop them up some more
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| Neither Bradford nor Wakefield have finished in a relegation place
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| Ah I thought this had all been put to bed months ago.
I see it was just a matter of the protesters bidding their time.
I know why don't we let the SL chairmen vote on it!!!!!
Oh they did?
Well lets dump the democratic idea and have one overlord to make all the decisions, what they had that too years ago and dumped that idea.
I dunno, people wanting to make up their own minds, it will never work.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Neither Bradford nor Wakefield have finished in a relegation place'"
So what
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| Quote j.c="j.c"So what'"
So P+R would have neither solved nor addressed the situations at Bradford or Wakefield, The system we have in place is irrelevant to their failure which was solely down to bad management.
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