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| So does that mean then when Paul Cooke was playing for kr he could lodge a complaint against fc fans when they were singing die die cookie cookie die ???? And for the idiot that was talking about kr fans singing about homophobic songs there was not a single chant about him which did suprise me as I was expecting it as u always get sum idiots that spoil for every one
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| Quote hullkrforever="hullkrforever"So does that mean then when Paul Cooke was playing for kr he could lodge a complaint against fc fans when they were singing die die cookie cookie die ???? And for the idiot that was talking about kr fans singing about homophobic songs there was not a single chant about him which did suprise me as I was expecting it as u always get sum idiots that spoil for every one'" UH?
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| Quote hullkrforever="hullkrforever"So does that mean then when Paul Cooke was playing for kr he could lodge a complaint against fc fans when they were singing die die cookie cookie die ???? And for the idiot that was talking about kr fans singing about homophobic songs there was not a single chant about him which did suprise me as I was expecting it as u always get sum idiots that spoil for every one'"
I am sure most clubs can recount abuse a player is subjected to...Long etc.....sadly it is the nature of the beast in sport, however racism and homophobic behaviour is taking banter/abuse to a different level and is totally unacceptable any where in life, let alone on a terrace which is full of families with children.
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| Quote hullkrforever="hullkrforever"So does that mean then when Paul Cooke was playing for kr he could lodge a complaint against fc fans when they were singing die die cookie cookie die ???? And for the idiot that was talking about kr fans singing about homophobic songs there was not a single chant about him which did suprise me as I was expecting it as u always get sum idiots that spoil for every one'"
They were 'just' sick, not bigotted.
When it happened at HKR it was their responsibility (see 2007 pitch invasion).
I've got a hunch that the VT might not want another Rovers-Hull bunfight, as it's a thread about Cas.
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| Ian nit starting anything like that just stating a fact that's all as it was the first thing that came to mind so I thought I would mention it
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| Several issues are raised here. I agree with action and indeed with setting examples as I cringed with shame when it happened. What worries me is consistency.
1 What if the club does everything possible yet issues still arise? Some clubs will suffer more due to local demography and social status locally. Do you up ticket prices to keep out undesirables? Clearly not as its hardly an inclusive sport then.
2 Is the RFL going to be consistent with such matters of crowd abuse? They have opened a can of worms here over what should be fined and what shouldnt.
3 Do they really feel that a liscense application should be affected by the actions of what is probably no more than 40 people.
Well done you idiots, the club has been fined about £1000 for each one of you. It think the RFL are right, but they have to get other decisions right around it.
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| I don't agree with the chanting for one minute but to punish a club and everybody associated with it for a couple of idiots is wrong and I think the fine is way over the top.
This fine also sets a dangerous precedent for future fines and I can see a can of worms opened if this fine is not dropped on appeal.
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| Quote king warrior="king warrior"Good we dont need this **** in our game well done cas fans bringing the game down'"
You expecting a bite ?
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| Quote crucrucrusaders="crucrucrusaders"I don't agree with the chanting for one minute but to punish a club and everybody associated with it for a couple of idiots is wrong and I think the fine is way over the top.
This fine also sets a dangerous precedent for future fines and I can see a can of worms opened if this fine is not dropped on appeal.'"
But it also could set a dangerous precedent if the fine is dropped. I don't necessarily agree with the fine, but if it is now dropped, what would happen the next time? You can't not fine one club but then fine the next. The punishment would have to be consistant. Maybe there should have been a fine but certainly a lot lower than £40,000.
Interesting that the fine was not actually that chant were made, but in the panel's opinion, Cas did not do enough to stop it. The fact that 3 chants were heard and on 2 occasions the chants were drowned out by the PA system, what else could the club have done on the day?
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| It was months ago Thomas announced he was gay. Why he still has to go on TV at every possible opportunity to keep banging on about it I really don't know.
Whilst I can understand wanting to take action, the size of the fine is ridiculous. Is this the first time that particular chant has been heard at an RL ground? Course not. Perhaps what the RFL should have said is 'we will not tolerate this....except on those occasions where it is not picked up by the national media'.
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| This would never have happened at Harlequins.
There is never anyone there to chant anything, homophobic or otherwise.
Seriously, £40k is ridiculous and I hope the club are successful with their appeal.
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| Another nail in the cas coffin, merge them with Wakefield already.
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