Crusaders are a breath of Fresh air. When teams that have been established for up to 100 years like Wakey and Salford can still only pull between 3000-5000 fans I think it fully justifies Crusaders inclusion in the top flight. If you also look at the Championship 1 attendances South Wales Scorpions have outperformed most clubs apart from York and Oldham. They get better crowds already that the long established RL teams from Workington, Swinton, Rochdale and league leaders Hunslet. Wales RL is the future.

an alias? im a new member, support widnes vikings and made a valid point. crowds are terrible, a team full of aussies and not a point scored by a brit. seems strange when franchise application states that attendances and youth development must be met to be considered. and it is not a crusader hunt. i agree with expansion and agree with my team being left out last time. however, i look at super league and see teams that were accepted do everything agains what got them accepted. my point today is this is crusaders second season, not first regardless of moving the length of the country and reinventing themselves. progress? none. poor crowds, mismananged as the rumours i am hearing is that they are losing money hand over fist, and a team full of australians. rugby league in wales would be brilliant if it worked. but its time to say it blatantly isnt

The Crusaders will last another 18/30 months , this does not please me one bit

What i find a bit worrying is that there is no marketing from the club what so ever.If you was not a supporter of the club you would'nt of known it was a game on today.It looks like they have give up on it Anyway our youth set up is coming on nicely crusaders under 18's just moved up to the super league academy league and won their first game today beating HUll FC away www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=2270

What i find a bit worrying is that there is no marketing from the club what so ever.If you was not a supporter of the club you would'nt of known it was a game on today.It looks like they have give up on it Anyway our youth set up is coming on nicely crusaders under 18's just moved up to the super league academy league and won their first game today beating HUll FC away www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=2270

With respect it was only a few very short years ago Widnes went bust owing a lot of people including many local small business's money that was never paid back.

Thay have made a great start at Wrexham 9th in the table and with a real chance of finishing eigth and in the play off zone. I'd say what a dazzling success. They will soon surpass Salford and Wakey in terms of support. They have made a solid start at Wrexham.

This is absolutely nowhere near enough to sustain a Super League club long-term. Dread to think what the average will be when the games in Neath are taken into account, you can't just ignore them! There is not enough interest at the moment for Crusaders to be financially viable.

in the region of 10 million pounds , it will fail , I might be wrong , I might be right , only time will tell

Tbf as a Salford fan we took a good away following today 500-600.

Not been on here for a few years. Good to see the shortsightedness of some League fans never wains.



The average crowd is disappointing, yes. However, the move to Wrexham was very much a 'last minute' thing, causing those at the Racecourse to learn and adapt to rugby fans very quickly. In spite of this they are averaging about what Cas, Wakey, Salford and Quins do, all of whom have a fair few years on Crusaders. Are we suggesting that crowd attendance is the be all and end all for Super League clubs?



Let's give it 20 years at least, not 5 or 10. Look long term. Look at the catchment area they have - the only high-profile top level Welsh sports team between Chester and Dublin. The Crusaders in Wrexham will prove to be a huge asset to Super League and the game in Wales - which will benefit our laughable international 'structure' - it just needs time.

Yeah, just hope we take the same to Huddersfield, we usually take a good following to their and create a top atmosphere.

Actually, his initials are DH. The RFL? Are they the same RFL who allow you to flaunt the rules on overseas players? As for your ground.....is the golf stand still in place? How about your clubs finances? Everything tickety boo there is it?

Almost every SL club is in financial trouble.....and a number of these, including Quins remain reliant on the money from a benefactor. Quins RL don't get a penny from the RFL......but I am starting to wish we did.....just to wind principled guys like you



Back on thread.......Crusaders crowds on the road count in their seasons average...as quins did when we had to take games on the road. They will finish the season with a good average due to the visits of HKR and Saints.....they are on 4,800 and I wouldn't be suprised to see them break 5,000 for the season. Given it's year dot for this club in this town, that's pretty good compared to some other older clubs...including my own!