Apart from when they don't?



England V NZ 2011 28 -6 (MOM Kevin Sinfield)



England V NZ 2009 20 - 12 (MOM Kevin Sinfield)

I don't get this 'no pace' arguement.

He isn't exactly slow.



I can't remember Wally Lewis or Brad Fittler streaking up field leaving clutching tacklers behind them. They made gaps with passes and controlled the game. They bust tackles too. I've seen Sinfield run at the line plenty of times and cause problems.



It doesn't matter whether you play Sinfield at 6,7 or 13. He will play the same game.

You just have to fill the other roles appropriately.



We have given other players the chance to do this now, with more speed and although sometimes looked good, controlling the game is always the part we lose.

When Eastmond and Tompkins played together they looked sparkley and we talked about them being half backs of the future. Problem is they are both strike players and can't get the team rolling.

Sinfield can do that.



If he plays at stand off we need a scrum half who can run, like McGuire or Myler or even Brough to be honest. If he plays at scrum half we need a stand off like Chase or Widdop. If he plays loose forward we have to accept we are losing a back row from Burgess, Ellis, Westwood, etc.



Personally assuming McGuire and Widdop aren't fit I'd have him in the halves. I don't like Chase but if we are picking him we might as well play him and tell him to run the ball. I don't think Myler quite has it but Warrington fans may say different.



That would mean with Roby at hooker we could have 5 monsters in the pack that we can get rolling like we are supposed to do. And a player that will lead them around the pitch.

Fittler and Lewis scored tries from inside their own half frequently when they were younger, they both had body types that filled out as they aged and were more suited at Lock, like many others in the game.

Fittler was initially a centre and was one of the fastest players in the game as he came through the ranks.

If you have a Stand off that can not beat his opposite defender either with pace or strength it hardly leave the defensive team wondering about strategy.

This isn't right - Sinfield has always been completely crap at international level. Never done anything. It's a Well Known Fact.

Not sure why you quoted 2009.

because england won and kev was man of the match

He has always looked pretty average against Australia except for one game where he was either Hooker or came of the bench as Hooker and played really well.

But he played Hooker not Stand Off....

he still ran the game..does'nt matter if he's hooker or stand off he'll still be organizing everything around him.

Oh, Ok.

Only until Roby came on.

Excellent choice of captain: superb leader both on and off the field and will do the role justice.



Now that he is the captain he is guaranteed a starting spot and I wouldn't want to put him into the halves, I'd be more inclined to play him from 13, but the problem with that is selecting the right players around him. As alluded to above, the fact that Sinfield can be the organiser will mean that we could utilise two running halves without having to worry too much about the kicking game and their organisation capabilities.



The fact is that Tomkins has to be moved into the halves, he was isolated in the match against Australia last time out and we really cannot afford for our best player to be ineffectual in a world cup.



1. Hardaker/Ratchford/?

6. Tomkins

7. Myler/McGuire/Widdop/?

9. Roby

13. Sinfield



The outside backs and pack picks themselves.