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Whats the Bulls fans feeling on this?

Maybe that's why the guilt trip put on people for not pledging is something I find frankly an utter disgrace.



I was at Belle Vue back in 2001 when Wakefield somehow stayed up, when the Chairman and his cronies begged us for money or the club would cease to exist, when the coach at the time (John Harbin, great orator) begged us for funds to keep the great players coming through (before he left for Dewsbury weeks later) and even that club managed to keep going despite having a crap ground, low support and a bloody awful squad at that point.



I sat through page upon page on forums of people saying how they were better because they could afford to, or were so blinded by 'loyalty' that they chose to donate thousands of pounds to keep a failing business, and those who put it there in the first place, afloat.



Forgive me for thinking that Bradford will still be around, whether £500k is found or not.

It's third of my four possible outcomes, ever so slightly higher than oblivion.

I've said this elsewhere but I think it's all a scam



They can and will stay afloat, pledges or not. What they are trying to do is guilt trip everyone into paying off the huge historic debt, leaving them free and unencumbered and in an awesome position to retake the summit of Superleague...

from the BBC





Seriuosly...if RBS agree to this they will leave themselves open to every single bad debt they ever call in being overturned and more time given.....



Only 1,800 at the stoop tonight and we still don't have any debt.....

That's because you have wonderful backing from the Royal Bank of RFL.

Alas roofs, it is only Bradford who have an account there.



BTW......as I have mentioned, if London had 1,000 travelling fans, then 2007-2011 would have seen 50k in extra revenue for your club....how much did you pi55 away on Mason.



Your owner is bitching like whiny schoolgirl again, but in reality, expansion clubs deliver the SKY TV deal at the expense of about 20k a year......would you be happy to lose the million + so as to welcome 500 Halifax fans to the caravan park once a year to watch amateur players with a couple of semi-pro's thrown in and maybe a pair of 35yrs old aussie backpackers?



Bradford as a business got themselves into this mess and to BEG the RL community for help to stop them doing what others have had to do is sickening IMO. They shoud accept their medicine and rebuild...it's painful, but in the end it will build a stronger club. If the RL community get them a stay of execution, who will thay ask next time...or who will the next club turn to?



This situation is simply enforcing the belief in the majority of the country that RL is a northern hobby......constant reference to the RL Community........they may as well post pictures of flat cap wearing whippet fanciers

Maybe that's why they asked the day before a bank holiday which itself is the day before Hood has to make a decision.

Bradford MP and former Sports Minister Gerry Sutcliffe added: "Bradford has had a rugby league club in various guises since the formation of the Northern Union was formed. We cannot let it die with the stroke of a pen."





Yes but Bradford Northern (1964) Ltd has only been around since, at a guess, 1964 and if it goes tits up there's not a shadow of a doubt that a new club will replace it.

Oh this stupid thing about Sky handing over cash simply because of expansion clubs - how the hell does 2000 fans in a 15000 stadium look good on Sky TV? It actually makes both SL and Sky look terrible. SL because it makes it look to the rest of the country like SL is watched by one man and his dog, and it looks bad on Sky because people tuning in to Sky Sports for the first time will think they show Mickey Mouse sports / leagues which no-one is interested in attending. It's bad, bad, bad - out with the Fulcrubronquins Experiment I say.

That's exactly the way I see it.



So pervasive has the wave of vomit-inducing hyperbole about saving the Bulls become, that when Brian Carney voiced one dissenting opinion on TV the other night, Bradford fans respond by calling for a lynching; and this is despite the overwhelming majority of pundits, administrators and former players who have turned their plight into something akin to Children in Need.



Quite frankly, the whole situation has become an embarassment.

This is my frustration. Bradford Northern (1964) Ltd may disappear, but tell me a new company won't replace that and I won't believe you.



(Does that mean Bradford Bulls can take no claim on any honours won by the club pre-1964 as that is not the same thing, going by the current logic.)