No it isn't,the metropolitan borough of St.Helens is roughly 180,000,which includes Haydock, Newton,Rainford and so on.

Haydock - Split between Wigan and Saints

Billinge - Split between Wigan and Saints

Newton - Split between Wigan, Saints and Warrington

Rainford - Full of scousers, quite few saints fans, scattering of Wigan fans.



Although there is no reason that Saints shouldn't be getting as many fans as Wigan, both towns are almost exactly the same size with almost exactly the same demographic.

Couple of points re this post.

Salfords new ground may not provide all the right answers but Salfords current ground IS causing a lot of problems. I could solve the Salford problems in about half an hours board meeting with a stadium built but they won't listen to reason.

The London club needs to move out of the M25, simple really. Im not one for bashing the current product though, as far as development goes, they're doing an absolutely tremendous job, definately worth 3 more years.

if man utd can get fans from london im sure st helens can get 1000 or 2000 fans who dont live in st helens



im sure there are people in liverpool who will go and watch saints in a new ground but not at knowsley rd

Has anyone worked out what our average attedance would be if quins and salford wern't in the SL?

I bet it would be pushing on 10k, maybe even slightly over.

However they're in SL, imagine what the average would be with just Wigan..playing themselves

How would the Wigan walk work in that respect?

Warrington and Hull both added 40%+ to their averages simply by moving ground. I see no reason why Saints and Salford can't do the same.



at Hull we've attracted many more females and family's to games, as the facilities are far better. Although you could argue that ourselves and Warrington had a large amount of 'dormant' fans who hadn't been to a game in years also.



I think Saints in particular would attract a bigger crowd in a new ground, as they'd draw in support from a wider area.

it's catch 22. Want to make the league bigger and expand RL but then it means that the season will probaly be longer and thus the international game will suffer which needs drastically improving for us to be seen nationally like union, football even cricket!

Meh, isn't everyone sick of being obsessed about attendances??

Same with the Magic weekend, who cares? people enjoyed themselves, I got to watch all 7 games and anyone who's THAT bothered about the exact attendance of every club oughta get a hobby.

Yes, attendance is important and it would be great to have 5k stuck on the gate but at the end of the day, there's a product on show kids, I think sometimes people forget that.

Because the future of Rugby League in this country depends on how many fans show up at games, and to a lesser extent how we expand the game to make it more national