Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"he could have done, but by no mean necessarily would have done.'"
I agree, but it's the possibilities that are considered.
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Fox would have been taken out of the equation by committing an illegal act, he doesnt then get the benefit of judging whether or not he could possibly have done something different.'"
The problem I have with this is that nobody has demonstrated where in the laws it actually says the offending player must be removed from consideration in alternative scenarios had the illegal act itself not taken place. Everyone seems to agree that the consideration is about the probability of a try being scored had the illegal act not happened. So I'm possibly being pedantic here, but I draw a distinction between the player and the act itself, and the laws don't appear to rule against my distinction.
I've seen penalty tries given where the offender was unlikely to stop a try in any other way than committing a foul, but I'm not convinced this case fits that category, because I think if Fox hadn't have fouled, if he'd have executed one or two seconds later he may still have done something to stop the try which would not have been illegal.
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If it was another player however i.e had Fox not tackled the player but another player elsewhere was in a position to do so, they would be taken into account'"
But where does it say that Fox is ruled out of possible scenarios had he not committed the foul?