How am i? All Ive been saying is we didn't deserve to win from the fact we couldn't put more points on the board in the first half and our defense in the second half, I'm just saying the Ref was awful and didn't go by the rules and ruined what could of been a good game, how can you say he wasn't awful?

nice contradiction there

And I'm saying the rules are wrong in respect of what the touch judges are allowed to do.



We all want to see good open flowing rugby - no-one will object to being beaten by a better side - but when you watch blatant refereeing errors THAT COULD EASILY BE AVOIDED - you have to question the way the game is run



Nowhere on here have I criticised Leeds - I notice that Lawrie L hasn't answered the question - should their last try have been awarded if the rules were administered fairly?

given I was stood slap bang right behind the sticks I couldn't tell you if it was forward, as either could someone stood on the halfway line

I was bang alongside, as was the touch judge, and the pass crossed the white line - going forwards!!



That's my point - the ref was unable to see it - the TJ could - when can't the TJ assist?

Two issues



Eraof the Biff "Arent they called referees assistants"



no: wrong game : that's wendyball.



Lawrie L "given I was stood slap bang right behind the sticks I couldn't tell you if it was forward, as either could someone stood on the halfway line"



absolute rubbish:

the ball crossed a painted on line WHICH is visible from where you stood i.e if a passed ball goes from behind the 20 metre line and is caught in front of the 20 metre line, it goes forward.

The movement of a ball across a white line in a forward direction is easily observable from the slightly higher position you were in unless you have become politically blind.



Sorry but you have not read the post, nor thought, nor argued well.

I can call you many names but you would insult any of them.



For the record, the better team over the 80 won, and I have got over it.

Which way were the passer of the balls hands pointing as the ball left his hands?

clearly you havent got over it, and call me a name



Im stood behind the posts, I cant see momentum, Im stood facing it so cant see the balls movement



dont let that get in the way of you getting over the game

You know that by the letter of the law that doesn't necessarily make it a forward pass don't you?

super league show may be interesting

At the end of the days leeds were better, if you can't find touch with a pen do you deserve to win a super league game???

And most referees wont ask as its probably seen as a weakness and marked down by the referee director of performance @ the game.

Dont forget the referees have to achieve certain levels of performance to continue to ref @ the top level and keep their full time job as a referee if they are seen to be passing the book to a part time linesmen to make a call the powers that be will this and a question mark over their ability and may stop them achieving their dream of refereeing finals and internationals.



So rather than encouraged to use all the support around him to make the correct decition he'll just make a gut decition on what he saw right or wrong when its not on TV in 12 hours time nobody remembers the incident the result still stands and you move on to the next game.



As for spotting forward passes from behind the goals you look for two thing



1) Where the attackers feet are when the ball leaves the passers hands and how many steps has to take to recieve it can be made easier with pitch markings



2) The position of the throwers and catchers hands in relation to his body and away they are from their body the more forwad the pass

There is another more complicated way by looking at the positioning of the back of recievers hands but without examples its a bit card to explain.



Leeds are a champion team and shouldnt need any favours when putting salford to bed, in a way the top teams are the top teams for one reason they can do stuff quicker than the other teams if that includes the odd forward pass then more power to their elbow you earn the right to that type of luck thats why they are near the top