However, it's not the "BBC Mechanics Team of the Year" award though is it.

Too be honest I don't do Football.....but think after reading this...he is more a lifetime acheivement candidate....

How can Ryan Giggs win British Sports Personality of the Year Award when "he ain't got a passport"?

????????????

you don't need one coming from Wales, Oh i forgot Wrexham is a City Euro away





how can the Irish Yawnian side be put forward for team of the year?

Aha, I see you've found a photograph of block 4 row 12 at Twickenham when England played Argentina. The row that was filled with bored supporters who also had jaundice like symtoms due to the boring entertainment they were subjected to. In fact, I believe it's the same group that were involved in a mass suicide attempt at the end of the game due to boredom induced depression.

Wow two biggots in one place, well that's the second day of Christmas sorted in the small minded remake of the 12 days.

I was pointing out that the team was IRISH, not British and it is the British team of the year not the International team, not that it was Yawnian, fair play if the England, Scotland or welsh team had won what ever they have to win get nominated but they might as well nominated Barcelona for being the First Spanish team to achieve the Treble in that country.

MR, I think I have to back BP up on this one. As much as a I try to follow Union as it does produce the odd great game (I thoroughly enjoyed the Lions Tests this summer), the general standard of fare they offer up is p*ss poor in comparison to League IMHO. I've had a look at the tries per game ratio for last season, comparing Super League against the Guinness Premiership and I think the stats are quite conclusive.



SL - 168 matches, 1574 tries scored @ 9.37 per match.

GP - 132 matches, 544 tries scored @ 4.12 per match.



For me there are far too many "technical" rules in Union which are open to misinterpretation, thus resulting in penalties. With 3 points awarded for a penalty I can see why most teams try and kick their way to vistory rather than throw the ball about. The stop-start nature to Union can also be hugely irritating with the ball being in the stands for probably half the match added to the time wasted setting up line-outs & scrums. If they only awarded 2 points for penalties I would hope thsi would encourage teams to go for tries more.



I'm sure the League v Union debate deserves a thread of it's own (it probably has had a few down the years!) especially as it keeps cropping up in any random thread posted on The Turkey.

My main concern with this is that one of the main people on here who blanket any reference to Union as Yawnion is either a teacher or teachers assistant, i'd personally be very concerned if my child was taught by someone with such a closed and biggoted mind, very worried indeed.



Union whilst not being a patch on SL at club level will always for me wipe the floor with League on an international basis, as i've said before coming from a Welsh family i've had the pleasure of attending a 6 nations game at the Millenium stadium and the atmosphere generated by the crowd is unlike anything i've come even remotely near to at any RL game. And as you say the Lions tours generate an interest that anyone in RL circles can only ever dream of creating.

For me as a fan I was glad Giggsy got the vote there has been no greater achiever in the game of domestic football, but I think it would have been more befitting if it had been a 'life time achievement' award rather than the personality for that year.