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| I wonder if Hock does go and Puletua gets picked up who the replacement would be, two second rows gone but an obvious need for a hooker. You'd think with their combined salary there's a decent contract available for the right player.
As someone else said on another thread Paul Carter from the NRL would be ideal, though the Doc might just have had his fill of meaning broken wings.
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| Quote Marshy1="Marshy1"If he's sacked him, possible big unfair dismissal claim on the way.'"
He wouldn't have a knee to lean on, let alone a leg to stand on.  If somebody who worked at Tesco was caught on CCTV twice in the same shift putting their knee in people's faces and also thumping someone, what would the outcome be?
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| Quote Michigan red="Michigan red"I wonder if Hock does go and Puletua gets picked up who the replacement would be, two second rows gone but an obvious need for a hooker. You'd think with their combined salary there's a decent contract available for the right player.'"
Unless it's by mutual consent or a "fair" dismissal I don't think the salary is freed up under the cap rules. If you just pay off a player's contract then you have still spent that money out of the current (and potentially next) years cap!
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| If this is true about Hock have we got a source i won't believe anything just on rumour?
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| If my maths is correct, when Hock's ban ends he'd of missed 20 out of a possible 36 SL games.
As he'll probably be one of the top earners at the club that return is just not acceptable!
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| Should've binned him off after his "accidental collision" with the referee last season.
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| No need for a hooker. You've got a perfectly good one in Liam Hood. Why that baffoon Harris plays Tommy Lee there only he knows. Hood will play in your next game and watch the difference around the ruck, you'll look a different side.
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| Quote Uptoncat="Uptoncat"No need for a hooker. You've got a perfectly good one in Liam Hood. Why that baffoon Harris plays Tommy Lee there only he knows. Hood will play in your next game and watch the difference around the ruck, you'll look a different side.'"
In my opinion we looked better when Theo Fages came on and he's a scrum half. Tommy Lee is a loose forward for me.
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| If Hock would have tackled Kevin Penny like that he'd have got a 392758 game ban, Nabuli gets told he's a naughty boy.
It's a fix I tells ya.
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| Quote Michigan red="Michigan red"If Hock would have tackled Kevin Penny like that he'd have got a 392758 game ban, Nabuli gets told he's a naughty boy.
It's a fix I tells ya.'"
No consistency it's so annoying. Going off Westwood's tackle on Walne in round 1 it was a yellow card.
On another subject how good has St George's kicking game been in that first half? Take note Salford our's has been poor at best so far, practice, practice and practice some more. What a massive difference a good kicking game makes.
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| Quote RedUnderTheBed="RedUnderTheBed"Wasn't he win binned away at London for punching one of their players who had wound him up in a previous tackle? I'm thinking a hooker/2nd rower on loan from one of the clubs up here. Scrum collapsed and Hock lumped him. Was utterly predictable as soon as the other player tried to hurt him a tackle or so earlier'"
It was James Cunningham, on loan from Hull FC.
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| Am I the only person who thinks Gaz Hock is getting a really rough deal? Is rugby league still a tough man's sport? Other players are week in week out putting in much worse offences with little or no punishment. Has he actually hurt anyone? Has he seriously tried to do anyone damage? For me the answer is no. It seems to me that the powers that be have decided that they're going to punish him no matter what. The first knees incident was stupid but didn't cause any injury ( a yellow card or maybe 1 game ban offence?). The 2nd one didn't look intentional to me. I saw a Cas player do exactly the same thing on the same weekend - nothing. There's the accidental collision with the ref. - I still can't say for sure that he meant to do that - no-one thought anything of it until they dreamed it up in the days after the game - and then hit him with a massive 7? game ban. Who can say if it was intentional - no-one.
It's like they really want to drive him out of the game - which is a disgusting way for a games governing body to act. Then every idiot with a keyboard or twitter account gets in on the OUTRAGE!!! and tries to make out that he's a disgrace to every player who's ever laced a pair of rugby boots and Baz & Tez will be turning in their graves... (they're still alive? Sorry, my bad).
If we learnt anything from the Terry Newton incident it's that we need to help and support players. Yet, they have gone the other way with Hock and it's like they're hounding him out of the game altogether.
Loads of people will say that he's had too many chances and I'm fully expecting them all to reply - and that's fine as we all have opinions. All I would say is look at what he's actually done - that you can prove was intended. I know he's no angel but it's not like he goes out to maim or injure in every game - he's just a bit daft.
Then the same people yearn for the era of the Biff ????
Don't even get me started on the Twitter OUTRAGE!!!! - Some complete bell end spends an evening trying to wind him up, being abusive and hitting all the right buttons and when he replies with an insult of his own it's a disgrace and he needs to be banned etc...
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