what standard is that?

below par i'd say.

what tickles me up is everyone bigging gleeson up when he has been average on the whole during his tenure here.

he could have gone at the end of his contract for nothing but not to the nrl as there have been no formal offers for him from there,so it seems like a bit of shrewd business on our behalf.

every side in the nrl has centres as good as or better than gleeson as does superleague.he was a top quality centre 5 years ago but not since then,whether that has been down to poor coaching or the players attitude and desire to play the game is debatable but the latter is nearer the mark.

Are you sure? if so why did they want Goulding?

goulding was offered by wigan not requested by us.

I have conflicting evidence of this; some seem to think he was wanted but Wigan want to retain him and are only allowing him out on loan as they think he still has a future.



And do we think Mathers was wanted or offered? I suspect offered?

As reported in the media;



"Wolves, who paid Saints £200,000 for Gleeson four years ago, wanted to take Richard Mathers and Darrell Goulding in exchange – but a cash-only deal looks more likely."

Any clues as to who this centre is Tache?

loads of em aparently, just pay em 70k and they'll be as good.

I know he's hardly a world beater, but Kirk Dixon at Cas is plodding along quite well up the goal and try charts.

Beware the dark horse on the outside, perhaps?

just rather av a brittish centre doing the buiseness more or less straight away rather than have some expensive aussie who takes well over a season to settle in...any way gleeson was very good on his day its just a shame he did`nt av to many good days during the last year and half

Just thinking of NRL players who have drifted out of representative reckoning:



Willie Tonga

Soliola

Cooper

Jerome Ropati

Lets hope we sign Yeaman or Senior then because outside of them there aren't any, which is why Gleeson was guaranteed an international spot regardless of his form

I would love to see Senior play for us.