SP's expanding naughty list I presume......

Perhaps the realisation that they won't get any further at the club is enough to curb the enthusiasm & performances of our up & coming youngsters. But we will buy in from other clubs, players probably at the same level, & shirking pensioners from overseas.



I hope our rejects come back & bite our sorry asses .

Whether Livett and/or Johnson were good enough, deserved the hyperbole, or not I do wonder if in two years time some people will be dismissively posting "I didn't understand the hype" about Dean, Doro or Thewliss whilst the next generation of Saints, Wigan and Leeds youngsters run amok around us.

Not many have to be fair, suspect Jullien is the one who has maybe achieved the most?



But i do agree with your point, we've let people like Ben Evans, Glenn Riley, Pat Moran all go and replaced with people like an aged Ryan Bailey, Jordan Cox, Louis Johnson and that's just the pack. The point being did any of these take us further? They also wouldn't have obviously been through the academy and been playing with some team mates for years, hence creating a dressing room culture of "the Warrington way". It's a shame

Well, it would be great to buy in your players of choice & win all before you but RL has only a limited pool of talent & unless young talent is spotted & nurtured the great players of the future will never materialise. How the clubs & the game in general deals with player development is crucial to the future of the game.

Quote Jack Napier="Jack Napier"That game against Leeds he was fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_HGhBV-6ZQ Had some promising spells at the club then Price snubbed him for whatever reason. Think we would have been great developing as a creative back row. Not to be. Hope he has a great career.'" Nah, that was the sky hype machine, cos a kid scored 3 tries, the first one he created, and the first one he scored granted, but he then pretty much had 2 walk overs from ratch roberts and clark ripping them apart down the middle, also he was at fault for Leeds first try. But the headline is, livett scores 3 tries. I've said it before and I'll say it again, all he had to do, was be slightly better than a post acl recovering ben currie, and he wasn't.

Quote Jack Napier="Jack Napier"That game against Leeds he was fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_HGhBV-6ZQ Had some promising spells at the club then Price snubbed him for whatever reason. Think we would have been great developing as a creative back row. Not to be. Hope he has a great career.'" Nah, that was the sky hype machine, cos a kid scored 3 tries, the first one he created, and the first one he scored granted, but he then pretty much had 2 walk overs from ratch roberts and clark ripping them apart down the middle, also he was at fault for Leeds first try. But the headline is, livett scores 3 tries. I've said it before and I'll say it again, all he had to do, was be slightly better than a post acl recovering ben currie, and he wasn't.

He suffered because we have been relatively lucky with injuries in the last few years and we haven't had a a regular reserve team.

He was not in the top 17 players. Same with Johnson. You need to play to improve and our big problem has been getting a players a game of rugby. How can Latu, Sita, Kibula etc. get match fit. When players get a game they haven't often had a game for months. It is a nightmare and of course made worse by the flamin' virus.

I don't think Kibula has been match fit since i first saw him play at 15 years old to be honest, always had the same deficiencies which have stopped him progressing to the next level whilst showing enough spark to warrant further time until Wigan gave up on him.

How many games did Livett play for Hull KR this year?

Ten.



Although admittedly kr ended their season early,

Harvey had a fair crack at it here, but apart from goalkicking never really did enough with the chances he got

We can use the same analogy for 20 years ago.



Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Ian Sibbit



Scored tries.my granny could have, gets a good number of tries in a short space of time, Aussies come sniffing, realise they've signed a dud, and he's back home before you can say Pommie waster.

Nothing wrong with being [iJohnny on the spot[/i, but he wasn't any good.

Hype indeed