Perhaps a novel way to deal with these mega forwards of other clubs would be to give the ball some air straight from tackle 1 instead of making 5 fruitless drives before trying the ball through hands on tackle 6.

We need some, as a matter of urgency



The last time we were a PROPER team was back in 2013, when our props were Morley, Carvell, Hill and Wood.

Today's is a far cry from those days

Hill is still up there

Cooper is merely a second rower, promoted

Crosby is Wigan's cast off, and hasn't done anything of note In a Wire top

King George is nowhere near good enough, at this level



4 top notch props gets you sniffing round trophies

Price will sort it

Got to disagree on cooper, he's been our best prop this year.



Hill has been up and down, better then last year but that's not saying much.

Crosby started well but has dropped of again.

King has shown that he's not good enough for a team wanting to challenge.



I think one top drawer prop would see us right next year.

I don't disagree with Cooper's form, he just isn't the same size (it seems to me) as a Morley Carvell Hill Wood. He need a bit more bulk. Les Cats had us at arms length (like a top heavyweight boxer would against a cruiserweight) last night.



Like I said elsewhere, just like Scrappy Doo

Can't disagree with that. Size doesn't always come into it though. Sims was similar height and weight to hill but didn't have that strength and determination.

Different position but look at Bateman, it defies logic that he's that strong.





With those 4 you mention, cooper would be 4th choice over wood, which I suppose tells you all you need to know about our back up

I'm fairly sure Crosby wasn't a Pie cast off, but chose not to sign a new deal and follow his best mate Hughes, who was in his first season and having a stand out period. He was really enjoying it and persuaded Crosby to sign.



Crosby was the current no8 at Wigan at that time.

Who is it?

Come on RD who is it ?

I've defended Dom Crosby over his exclusion, however I won't defend him over his inclusion.

He made near zero difference vs Catalans and loaning him out will in turn make little difference for us... With a full team he'd be lucky to get on the bench when BMM returns and with a jury's still out Akouala.

It does leave us shallow with out-and-out props but Pomeroy has been extremely successful and I'd put him straight in at back row to free up Westwood to deputise as a prop.l over anything Crosby can offer.



No issues from me to let Dom look for a good contract for 2019 if that Salford rumour is a none starter even if that means letting him go out on loan.

Crosby didnt play against Catalan.

He was on the field against Wigan but he did more shirt grabbing than an under 8's team.

He was awfull against wigan and it wouldnt suprise me if it was his last.

Its a shame because he just doesnt look like a rugby league player any more.

We have effectively played the last 3 seasons with a prop down. Having said that Saints have had the same this year with Walmsley out injured and they have coped.

Doh