I did not to say the vaccine was live and the adjuvents do the job of of stimulating the immune system , do they not . (mf59).

and the maim cause of the problems with the spanish flu was it killed healthy people not the weak, young or old . ie the people with less effective immune systems .

Thanks for you reply .

No need to thank me.



I responded in the way I did because you responded with a series of half facts and some none facts to link adjuvants to boosted immune system then a boosted immune system to the flu in 1918. In short its bobbins.



Your right that the flu in 1918 killed healthy people rather than the vunerable but most deaths were from pneumonia not flu and were not from some over stimulated immune response. So your link between the 1918 flu and over stimulated immune systems is a poor one.



Now onto the adjuvants and the live thing versus non live vaccines. The over response of the immune system is due to cytokine storm. The current vaccine stimulates different parts of the immune system than those associated with this response. If these nasty adjuvants are so bad how have they been used for tens of years perfectly fine?



Its very much a case of people with a little (make that almost no) knowledge scaremongering to others who themselves know no better. It just cascades from there.

Not really the place to discuses this but there is much debate about the immune system response problems of the Spanish flu and the safety of adjuvents and vaccines as a hole , gillian bray sydrome as an example .



The same as the debate about the preservatives used such as ones which contain mercury in some cases ,and its links to autism and formation of ionic mercury in the brain . im not trying to scaremonger as you put it or half truths, but debate,.

The thanks was meant as respect not sarcasm.

I didnt think it was sarcasm

I probably just worded my post wrong. Anyhows onto your points you are right that you need to consider the safety of these things but it will be doone pretty well. Vaccines get a rough time because people are scared of them because they dont understand them fully. People attribute a much higher risk to using them for some reason yet the same people will happily do things in their life that are far far more risky without battin g an eyelid.

Can I get a student discount on it?

Guillain–Barré syndrome

That medical dictionary is worth its weight in gold isn't it.



hope you got a good student discount on it.

Lay off the sarcasm, he is certainly qualified enough to comment on these matters, I know which one I would listen to when it comes to medical issues....

Difficult word to spell due to its French origins. I thought that if people wanted to look it up, it would be easier if it was spelt correctly.

Markus Babbel suffered from this during his time at Liverpool.

i thought it was one of Houlier's french reserve players?

You're thinking of Jean Michel-Ferri, classy midfielder who made a massive impact at Liverpool.