This is one in the eye for the if (Briers plays) = Win, else lose statistic.

No one claims that, 71, and you know it very well. However, I would argue it is indisputable that our organisation, creativity and kicking game is almost always better when he plays.

Would you be confident going into the playoffs if you were yet to beat saints wigan or leeds? Genuine question.



FWIW I think you'll reverse the leeds and saints results at the HJ, and they'll be no more said on the subject.

I respect your opinion, but I think it's slightly premature. Leeds have won 3 grand finals on the trot, warrington have just won the solitary playoff game (against leeds lol). Warrington are above leeds in the table, but I think leeds recent record should afford them some slack.



If warrington are stronger than leeds as you say, then they will take the title from them, or finish higher in the playoffs than leeds. Then there can be no complaints.

Who else has lost to Saints and Wigan this season hmmm



Leeds were not that good lets be honest



First 40 Wire were in control Leeds didn't get into our half till about 20 mins in and when you did it was off cheap pens which lead to other pens which you scored from.



Second half you scored with us missing King and then when Hicks went off lets face it you were on the racks and we bombed tries in the second half which would of made it closer not to mention kicks.



Leeds had 4 out so what we had 4 out along with King missing the start of the second half of the game and then Hicks for 10 mins where we lost the game.



I really wouldn't come on here crowing

He wasn't "crowing" though was he, he was responding to a previous post which said Warrington would have won if monaghan and myler played, he countered it saying we were also missing key players.

Let me tell you this, it would mean a hell of a lot more to a Warrington fan if you had won last night than it does to Leeds fans that we won and this forum and ours would be full of Warrington fans telling us how you are the best team thats ever played Rugby League, you take more fans away than anybody else etc etc.

With all due respect al do what I like. Leeds defence was awesome last night. for the record I wasn't the one using injuries as an excuse. that was one of your lot. I was just pointing out that most teams are always gonna have key players out. We did in our last 3 gf's. It's the nature of the game.

"you were will beaten last night and the "we only lost by 10" is a smoke screen"

You could shag a sheep for all I care mate.



The point I was making was it wasn't an easy Leeds win as you tried to point out.

Where did I say it was an easy Leeds win? I didn't. I said you were well beat. Leeds had to do it tough. I also agree Leeds have been well below par for the first half of the season losing to the pies and saints along the way. That says to me we have been a long way off been real contenders. most Leeds fans on these boards are under no illusions about where we are at as a team.

Thats not crowing thats how it went down you looked like you were gonna hammer us for 15 mins then until the game was Gone with about 7 mins left you got a couple of touch downs throwing the ball around like there was nothing to lose. for hour of that game you were out played. You really don't need to be so touchy. It's not gonna effect your league position looking at saints score. we can be honest about the game without trollin or dumby spitting.

I just disagreed with the "you were will beaten last night and the "we only lost by 10" is a smoke screen" comment the best team won thats for sure but I think losing by 10 summed up the game