yeah I'm still trying to be positive.........I agree on Hodgson, plus I think Solomona is done... He offers nothing absolutely nothing...... that's a wasted spot for me next year.



But Leeds have proven you dont have to be world beaters all year to get the big prize.... I dont think we'll win the league next year but come the play offs we'll be better prepared.

you got to beat saints yet bellend

to be fair we've been in plenty of Challenge cup semi's in Recent years so we know all about them. and even the big Challenge cup rounds like at Saints when Penny scored his blinders...its all a process of getting in the mix...



unfortunately we havent been at the business end of the play off system until today...

There's no difference though, all those Challenge Cup games are knock outs just like playoffs.



I think this business of us being bottlers is a myth, we've lost in playoffs in 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010 and now. But in all honesty how many of those were we credible title winners...? Only last year and this year have we been knocked out by teams that finished below us in the league.

We can't complain with the entertaining rugby we have seen this year & at least we did manage to fill our stadium ,unlike our close neighbours!

Wire have been the best team all year but there is a lack of winning mentality from both fans and coach. For me Smith seemed happy at the cup defeat so you could focus on this and yes you have been punished by the pathetic play off system, but there are no positives from tonight! End of the day wire bottled the two most important games this year! Hard Lines but you should expect better

What an awful post.



''Knocking on the door''????? Wire were dead certs, if you were to believe all the hype they should have walked into the grand final wearing a dinner jacket. Personally I didn't believe all the hype. I backed Leeds last Wednesday to win in an arm wrestle game. The only way Wire were going to win tonight was by blowing Leeds away in the first half unless the occasion got to them, and it was clear to see that it did get to them. Wire bottled it tonight, I don't care what anyone says.



Ganson had nothing to do with the result.



As much as I hate Leeds and as much as I hate saying this, I have to take my hat off to them tonight. They toughed it out against a much better Rugby playing side and got the result they deserved. I still hope they get hit for 50 in the final though!

Can the trolls be banned like you promised Yed?

Lack of winning mentality? Won three trophies in three years. Smith has won three Grand finals, two challenge cups and 2 league leaders shields? Don't talk bollox. We got beat in a one off game. Wigan at home was an important game and we embarassed you twice in the league. Nothing to do with bottling it, we got beat by a better team on the night. Badly disguised troll attempt.

I could feel the earth shake in Wigan as the Warrington team fell off the top of this almighty tall pedestal that you all put them on

Another troll. The league table put us on that pedestal.

Arrogance? At what point was we arrogant? Tony smith didn't go as he does not agree with the club call system, how is that arrogance?



Most people who have bought grand final tickets are going anyway, i think I have seen one person on here who shown them self up about being in the 'barmy army' end but other than that people were going anyway.