i wasn't having a dig. I was just wondering whether the RFL had a right to.

He's been getting tested regular by us not the rfl

ooooooooooooh... that is a little bit unusual.



So if he was found to have something suspect in his system, there is no obligation for Wigan to take any action?

From what i understand he's been 'offered' a 5 year deal with us and part of it is to get tested regular and if he 'breaks' his contract the deal is off now if it did come up positive i dont know what wigan would do regarding the rfl

Let's be honest, he's never really seemed to have left wigan during this ban has he?

you'd hope they'd report it to them?



In a morbid sort of way i am looking forward to him returning. It has been a while, see how he has taken the playing gap.

No he cant train with us or anything like that but i'm sure he's been going to schools giving talks about drugs and stuff not 100% on that though

Yeah if they did find anything i hoped they would he was stupid for doing in the first place if you look at it from his side he's not the brightest bulb so has nothing to fall back on after rugby so this lay off hit him hard



He's put alot of bulk on over the last year and half he's been training 4-5 times a week with an ex sas guy lots of fitness and been told he will be coming back has a prop sizewise he's not far off morley

I can't see prop being a good step for Hock, defence was never one of his key attributes. He came a cross as a 'lazy arm' defender, who, if put in the middle of the pitch would be a prime target for the Robys of this world.

Well you could look at it from the attacking side his offloads (most of the time) are very good you dont find many props with hands like his in the game



I'm sure madge will work his defence out he did it with the rest of the squad

you know i'm a bit conflicted over this (not strongly) you'd have like to have seen wigan take a stance and distance themselves from him over this ala us with phil berry, london with dom peters and bradford with ryan hudson,for hock besmirching the name of Wigan RLFC. However i was keeping an eye over your side and it took about 6month or so for an announcement over was happeneing with hock, then for ages now its been repeated and rumoured(and you know how likely these are) about wigan already having a contract waiting for him. As i say, aside from him not being on the playing staff it didn't seem that he'd been removed.



But in the light of the terry newton situation, it makes you wonder what the correct stance should be, though an extreme case it was mentioned that terry had other issues in his life re his family as well as the ban.



hmm/

Good point most players have nothing after the game and with the likes of hock,newton and hudson they have too much time on there hands which could be a good thing to get there heads straight or it could be a bad thing



Imo players should be punished for these kind of things but on the other hand they shouldn't have everything they know taken away from them maybe allowed to train with the club but on a very basic wage like minimum wage there is a fine line cause fans will be sending all sorts in to the rfl if they go down that route



I do know for a fact penrith had talks with him and put an offer on the table but he turned them down because of the way our club treated him after it all come out he didn't leave his house for a while but then he got set up with this sas guy and been putting everything into it, imo the shape he's in at the moment he will be better than ever when he returns