No you don't need to be a feeder club pro teams in nrl do have feeder clubs but not all of them they play n several comps. Nswrlc and qc just two of many . Leigh could have a feeder club pick from several but the feeder club would have to play in reserve league but then could not have junior sides as BARLA run those .trying to find an example for you but struggling . In Australia they leave the amateur clubs alone to develop kids upto 16 then bring them in to the feeder club . It's much more based on education at the moment in oz . Can be done in Leigh but Derek does not have the backing of all the amateur teams in Leigh , so could destabilise the grass roots game in the area. That will never happen

So how many lads who started as juniors at East/Rangers are currently playing in first teams at Wigan Wire or Saints



How many have played Test match rugby in the last twenty years

Dominic man Fred I , josh woods micky higham sam Hopkins , ruddy, why do you just say Wigan watrrington and saints . We in this country tend to look for the kids who standout in Australia they look for attitude then coach the skills into them . We are way behind . A fully well structured academy will always produce . Or maybe you just keep paying into the pocket of over age . How many aussies have made a success from nrl to sl

I don't follow your point ?

you said Wiggin have first choice so how many have we lost to them and the others when we have not even been in the ball game

I don't know the answer thought you might

Are you just referring to East/Rangers players ?



That doesn't work as a point of reference , we wouldn't just recruit from those 2 clubs , the question you need to ask is how many players does SL ( it is SL we are discussing here ) need each year to replace retiring players ?

He's just being negative as usual

so none then.

im sure the coaches of the most winning team we have had in the country the cyclists will say they coach attitude as well very harshly as some have complained



nice to see coaches coaching session at lsv today we need fully trained coaches across all sports



how many aussies have made a success here surely too many to mention,how many have gone the other way very few

you obviously do not follow the amateur game as I do one of the hot talents in the game at the moment is a lad from east called Ryan Horne we St. Helens snatched him from under the noses of Wigan and the rest . Rangers also Have least 5 or 6 on the radar of prem clubs but you keep your rose specs on and I will keep to the grass roots and I promise you I will see more future internationals that you will ever see. Our coaches will start coming through and surpass any of those dollar pinching striped shirt aussies .

Bongser doesn't follow the amateur sides much it has to be said and you may very well be right in all that you say. He does however follow the forum hither and thither on various boards and thinks that your posting style reminds him of someone.



He may be wrong. He often is.

bands if your thinking of mr c then I have to admit I was one of the few people who hacked his account a while ago , he knows that I am on here again ' now he is not very well at the moment but he as lots and lots of people around who respect him and will do anything for him .



A lot of people on here are just bully's and they would run a mile if keith was ten years younger. We continue to monitor this forum to gather evidence and discuss it with him we have known him for many years he as coached many kids through to the pro game me being one of them . We will not see him suffer . Now that you have sniffed me out B and B I will step back but me and a couple of friends will be keeping an eye out for our mate .goodbye

You might have noticed there are certain posters currently ' infesting ' our board who I refuse to reply to , I don't reply to posters who use multiple ' persona's '