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| If we had to replace Grix i would love to see someone like Hanbury brought in, but apart from being a confidence player Grix is fine for us - yes i would like him to be a more attacking threat but he isn't and is at times a more than capable Full-Back. Saying that though i wont be disappointed if we let him go.
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| When Grix isnt at fullback, we arent as fluent in attack or organised in defence.
If he is to be replaced then it will need someone VERY good to replace him imo.
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| murphy by all accounts with broughton occupying murph's wing spot.
as good as murph has been this year, I stil think we need someone with that extra bit of class at full back, that young lad at HKR looks good sometimes 
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| Quote meast="meast"murphy by all accounts with broughton occupying murph's wing spot.
as good as murph has been this year, I stil think we need someone with that extra bit of class at full back, that young lad at HKR looks good sometimes
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the stats on eden and grix make interesting reading.... to say eden was error prone just look at whos made the most errors this season...
def think murphy is the way to go next season at full back with broughton on the wing.
when you look at other teams full backs, tomkins, hardaker, hodgson, hanbury, escare, mcdonnell, eden, kearney, dorn, lomax
can you honestly rank grix in the same bracket as some of those? you kind of see where we can improve as a team. not scapegoating just think its part of where we can improve as a team
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| Quote brearley84="brearley84"
when you look at other teams full backs, tomkins, hardaker, hodgson, hanbury, escare, mcdonnell, eden, kearney, dorn, lomax
can you honestly rank grix in the same bracket as some of those? you kind of see where we can improve as a team. not scapegoating just think its part of where we can improve as a team'"
I agree with this and it was something I was going to raise earlier. If we were to release Grix, I don't think any of the top 8 would be rushing to sign him.
Regarding the fluency in attack, I must be really missing something here. For me, he gets caught too often with ball in hand. Yeah, he scores a few when backing up and that is one of the positives of his game, but we have other players who are arguably as good at this (brough, Patrick, even Eorl)
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| There are a lot of toddlers who have never seen Leeds beat Huddersfield.
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| there were plenty of adults not seen Huddersfield beat leeds until 2003! let em suffer 
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| meh, to be honest I think your win at Headingley was much better and worthy of celebration.
For saying the side you beat a couple of days ago I reckon is at least 9 changes short of our best side, effectively 10 once you consider JJB left the field within 10 minutes.
Still, good win for you. Just hope we can meet you in the playoffs at full strength to inflict some revenge.
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| Quote Little Drummer Boy="Little Drummer Boy"meh, to be honest I think your win at Headingley was much better and worthy of celebration.
For saying the side you beat a couple of days ago I reckon is at least 9 changes short of our best side, effectively 10 once you consider JJB left the field within 10 minutes.
Still, good win for you. Just hope we can meet you in the playoffs at full strength to inflict some revenge.'"
I agree with your first statement, not convinced you could make nine significant strengthening changes (not arguing you could make 9 changes just not convinced all would make a huge difference). Your real significant losses imo were Watkins, Sinfield and Bailey and there is no doubt those three would make a difference (you could argue Moon also, but he was suspended not injured, so no sympathy there).
It was a good win for the Giants as the team Leeds put out still had plenty of quality, enough quality to finish top six if that was your full team imo. I think the result impacts on the likely final order of the top 4. Despite losing to Wire, Wigan should be first, it is close 2/3 between Giants and Wire and Leeds will likely finish 4.
Of your youngsters, Sutcliffe looked good, Keinhorst and Singleton were ok but look like future squad guys. Minns struggled, but he had the most daunting task directly facing Leroy, good coaching and support and although no doubt a tough experience for him, it could prove invaluable in the long term.
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| Thought Leeds youngsters did themselves justice on Sunday despite the margin of the final score but Sutcliffe was the pick of the bunch. Twelve of the seventeen could be said to be named regularly in the 19 man squad so I believe on the performance they gave they will still beat a lot of teams. The Leeds youngsters would walk into a lot of Superleague sides.
The Giants weren't at their fluent best and I think will improve for Friday night hopefully.
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| Sutcliffe looked great, think it was Singleton's worst performance so far, but then again he played far more minutes and was given much more of the workload compared to the last few weeks. Keinhorst I'm not sure will make it at Leeds while Minns is more naturally a winger than a centre.
Of all the players missing (Watkins, Moon, McGuire, Leuluai, Jones-Buchanan, Sinfield, Ward, Delaney and Bailey) I suspect only McGuire & Ward would not have had a significant strengthening effect on the side.
That said, it's good to see we now have (in Liam Sutcliffe & Stevie Ward) replacements in place for Sinfield & McGuire when they do go. I suspect Burrow will prove much harder to replace.
As for League position, our game against Wire in two weeks now looks crucial as does the final game against Wigan. You boys keep it together and we could be there to hand you the LLS in September.
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| Murph is one of the 1st names on the team sheet for me these days. Safe under the high ball, strong in defence and a brave runner with ball in hand. Sounds like a pretty good FB to me.
And the points we lose by not playing Grix I think Broughton will more than make up for.
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