Only other one is Rhodri Lloyd who played for Wigan last season and plays for wales.



According to their players interviews -They didn't think they'd have a team at all the day before the game- just goes to show the difference a team spirit can have. Something we have failed to develop.

Anyone else expecting a pasting the next two Thursdays?

As a Leeds fan I'm expecting hugely motivated and dangerous opposition. There must be a reaction, surely?

To be fair that side would have lost to Swinton when they were at Bradford last year. You can't blame Stone's coaching it's your feeder club that's getting worse.

Last year it was luck and a single point that kept you out of the MPG. With this current set of players, I don't think you'll do as well as that. Brough is your star man AND your corrupting influence at the club now. Plus he is probably on a huge wage which may be stopping the club moving on. I hope you don't improve for obvious personal reasons for my own club's chances, but at present, either you or Widnes look destined for relegation.

We had been expecting it all season- we've stopped expecting. motivated Giants is an oxymoron.

The situation is beyond a joke now.



The rhetoric coming from the coach is defeatist and his post-match comments laughable given the Swinton side that was out there. We don't want to win as much as the opposition. To a degree it doesn't matter whether Stone is coaching them anything at all. He isn't motivating them. They aren't motivating themselves. You can have all the skill in the world but if you run half a4sed you won't break a tackle. If you don't put your shoulder in you won't stop a runner. If you don't get back onside or up off the man quick enough you'll get pinged by the ref and if you don't have numbers and dominate in the tackle you can't slow down the PTB.



There is no leadership. On the pitch or off. Cudjoe, best will in the world, is no captain. He can't even speak to the touchline presenter post-match. This is not a criticism of him but it does show that picking him as captain, IMO, is flawed. There is no obvious replacement and that is a part of our problem. No leader.



The result yesterday is unacceptable. Swinton are struggling in the Championship, struggling with injuries and a part time side. Deafening silence from the twitter and facebook pages apart from congratulating Hardisty on his run. Better to have a white out on those pages than post that IMO. Who cares about Steve Hardisty's run after a performance like that, a(nother) season like this? Heads well and truly in the sand.



I bought my ticket this season out of loyalty to Ken. I had my ticket and stopped coming last season because it actually ruins my weekend to go and watch. I leave the ground annoyed and disappointed. What's the point in doing that to myself? I can put up with losing, Christ we have lost more than we have won in my time, but I can't put up with supposedly talented players being out-enthused.



Last week the players had a meeting without the staff to clear the air and the week after they get beat at home by a part time team decimated by injuries with two wins all season. They have no pride at all.

Spot on

Couldn't put it better than that, It just tallies with my thoughts that they are all in the comfort zone.

packed up ... getting the players in healthy shape for the middle 8's now

if we had danny brough playing yesterday would we have won??



he got himself banned, maybe he should take some of the blame for yesterday too...

Wow. I'm impressed with how long it took someone to blame Brough.



No, we wouldn't have won. And if he wasn't suspended he would have been rested with the others anyway so it would have made absolutely no difference whatsoever. The reason we lost is down to those on the pitch yesterday and the man in charge of those on the pitch yesterday.



Move on.

not so sure he would have been rested, gaskell had a niggle so had to play... brough may have made the difference



but the team still should have won anycase