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| Quote CrusaderPete="CrusaderPete"Yep with no P & R, once the honours are out of reach, thats what you get, guys going through the motions!'"
The inadequacies of the London Broncos RLFC in the seasons 2010/11/12/13 have very little to do with their being no p&r. 25 SL wins in the last 112 SL games are down to the Owners refusal to take advice from anyone regarding anything.......he let Mac go thinking Powell was ready.....he then took 18 months to get rid of his mistake and replaced him with another "buddy"......the last season was one where we really reaped the benefit of Hughes megalomania.....whilst 2014 is the year we can appreciate his inability to make a statement and stand by it.
By the way, this is the only year that RELEGATION will be a worry for SL clubs.....from 2015 onwards, they will have 400% more overseas players and twice the salary cap as opposed to their Championship foes in the middle 8...... chances of someone "going up" are purely based on maybe a club going pop......
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| We seem to be a couple of big forwards short. Cooke and Olsi put in spell that were too long on Sun.
Atkins is a waste of a slot, wearing No 3 so was presumable our starting centre pre season. Caton Brown isnt ready for SL yet. Wire/Bridge had a field day attacking him.
Some of the attacking moves on Sunday looked good.
I dont think we have enough to stay up sadly.
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| Been saying that since before the season started WQ', "we need a couple more big old ugly props".
As to the other GF', well it will be difficult for a while, because for the last few seasons the Championship clubs have been left to "whither on the vine" whilst the rest have had the benefit of Sky's millions without having to do anything.
However eventually the top end Fev', Leigh & 'Fax in particular will probably have their day. Look at other sports with P & R and it's not that unusual for some small clubs to overhawl the disadvantage, where there is a will there is a way!
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| Quote wire quin="wire quin"[u[iWe seem to be a couple of big forwards short[/i[/u. Cooke and Olsi put in spell that were too long on Sun.
Atkins is a waste of a slot, wearing No 3 so was presumable our starting centre pre season. Caton Brown isnt ready for SL yet. Wire/Bridge had a field day attacking him.
Some of the attacking moves on Sunday looked good.
I dont think we have enough to stay up sadly.'"
Keeping Greenwood fit would help ref the forwards. If we have to wait a few weeks into the NRL season before one becomes available and THEN have to apply for a visa we will have missed the chance for some possible points against Catalans.
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| It looks like we must win against at least one of Wakefield or Castleford and against Catalans to create any sort of belief in a possible escape.
I honestly think that for three of the last four halves of Rugby we have played well and we have improved from the very bad performance against Widnes. The second half against Warrington looked like an unwelcome return to the unacceptable performances shown against Leeds and Widnes away and created a bit of a sour taste. We simply couldn't contain Wire in the second half and they ran away with it in the end, which is what most expected, but it was still disappointing.
It looks like we are struggling to keep James Greenwood on the pitch when he was excellent v Bradford and have had nothing from the injured Dollapi so we are already light in the Props. I'm reassured we are still in the market and that Atelea Vea will soon be available, but we need loan signings I feel, although the 5th and 6th choice Props are unlikely to be seasoned Pros from most clubs but more youngsters.
I am stating the obvious but we cannot be going into games with a little halfback and a winger on the bench rather than the standard four forwards if we are to have anything to match the oppositions bench in the second half.
But I'm reassured having spoken to David Hughes that he genuinely is behind the club again, remember he has been involved since 1996 and that he won't see the club fold. He laid out a huge sum to clear out the club of dead wood in October and he will find more cash yet again for the right players.
Some of the people who have stopped coming campaigned against a move to Gillingham but still haven't come despite us staying within London and for me that is really bad news for the club.
This could be the last chance for many to see Super League rugby live against the better teams and they are missing out and the club is missing out.
I know that London have a lot of knockers and a lot of people who don’t come and watch us have an opinion and that carries a bit of weight in the media and with some fans. It is easy to be swayed. But if people fancy it, or to come to an away game, I am pretty much always there and everyone will be greatly welcome if they want to join us or re-join us in our battle against the drop and to retain our proud record of never finishing bottom.
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| What is the situation next season regarding overseas players etc. As GF said next year the SL clubs will have an advantage over the second tier clubs because of the extra quota but is this definitely the case or will they be brought more into line?? I thought there could be a change to increase the OS quota for the second tier teams.
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| Only slightly off thread - DH must be gutted that his other team have done so badly they sacked their manager - one Chris Powell !! No relation one presumes to the late lamented (not) RL coach Powell ?
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| Quote markrammond="markrammond"
But I'm reassured having spoken to David Hughes,'"
Good for you. He's flushed over £13,000,000 down the drain, made some insane decisions, idiotic appointments and as a result has lost the support of the MAJORITY of the fans.
Good for you that your best buddy dave has told you he's 100% behind the club........it won't stop them going down and he retires soon enough.
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| Quote Halfdan of t'wide embrace="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"Whilst I enjoyed it enough to anticipate making more visits than previously anticipated I think we have to accept that Wire were nowhere near their best. It was better than last season score wise but was that down to them or us?
I agree with Paddock we aren't top division quality. Whilst I'd rather we were, I won't get too upset about that. The reason I got an Oxford season ticket was that last season was a breath of fresh air, 17 guys giving 100%, something we hadn't seen at London for far too long. Sunday was a breath of fresh air for the same reason.
If the players keep that up they deserve my support. Be the best they can, I ask no more of them.'"
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| Quote dotti="dotti"Only slightly off thread - DH must be gutted that his other team have done so badly they sacked their manager - one Chris Powell !! No relation one presumes to the late lamented (not) RL coach Powell ?'"
I wouldn't have thought so! Trouble for Chris Powell was he seemed to be trying to manage the club whilst the new owners effectively had his hands tied behind his back!
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| Quote dotti="dotti"No relation one presumes to the late lamented (not) RL coach Powell ?'"
Before his sacking Chris Powell had a win ratio circa 40%
The only thing Towel averaged in the 40 percentile range was points conceded per game.
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| Quote Cowgirl Nostalgist="Cowgirl Nostalgist"Before his sacking Chris Powell had a win ratio circa 40%
The only thing Towel averaged in the 40 percentile range was points conceded per game.'"
Towel conceded 34.93 points per game over 47 SL matches.....we scored 19.19 per game during his tenure, with a W D L ratio of 19% - 2% - 79%.
This was David Hughes appointment and when combined with the matching book ends of Blanchard and Mackay, it has gone a great deal of the way to condemning London Broncos to the wilderness that will be the middle 8 at best, but in reality, the bottom 8 within 2 or 3 years.
Eloquent appeals by Mark Rammond for fans to return are all well and good, as is the confession in the Salford Programme and the self flagellation at the forum, but the REALITY is that it is too little too late. Tony Rea was hamstrung by someone else's squad in 2013 resulting in the highest ever losing margin average in SL for London at 17 points a game......now as a direct result of David Hughes "wobble" in October, we are currently running at a 30 point loss per game.
Tony Rea wanted to split the season into groups of 4 games.
Group 1 is done..... we are on 0 points.
Group 2 is Wakey at Home followed by Leeds Away, Castleford at home and Wigan away. Come out of that with anything less than 2 points and we're on the edge.
Group 3. Dragons (H), FC (A), Saints (A) and Huddersfield at Home.......then it's Magic weekend....less than 6 points at the end of round 14 and we're gone!
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