We are in 11th.



Last year we finished 13th.



People were asking for the coach's head weeks ago when we were higher.



When we have less than a full compliment, we struggle. Our squad clearly does not have the depth. Yet people say youngsters should be playing. Then when we lose. The coach is crap.



I don't get it. I really don't.



Give the coach a chance. He showed early on in the piece he can deliver something. Give him time and preferably a better squad.



It's not always the coach.

The problem is more squad depth than a poor coach.

Judging by the half-time score at Leigh tonight, appointing Nobby as a consultant has worked instant wonders for Halifax. Something likewise for us could have a similar effect. McRae or Tony Rea or ...?

Ellery Hanley if it is a mental thing, the guy might not have been the most technical of coaches but he really does exude confidence and rugby league hasn't changed that much over recent seasons to say that he wouldn't be useful as a football guru to just put a bit of positivity around the place.

Ellery, yes please!

4 players for Hull playing a second game in a few days and we still don't appear to be on the same playing field as the opposition. Does everyone believe that this team is a team that should be letting in this many points every week and losing by a heavy margin every week. I was not at the game but await the same old pattern of tries being run in along the same old channels that they seem to be scored in, and virtually unopposed.



The team is the one that it losing the games, and to quote Daniel Defoe "it is better to have a lion at the head of an army of sheep, than a sheep at the head of an army of lions."

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 018837.stm Terry Matterson leaving Cas, expected to move to an NRL club for an assistants role at best, but is their any worth in us having a word with someone who has a strong affinity for London, the London club, rugby league in London and the European Super League. A head-coaches position at a heavily invested SL club in London would surely be an attractive proposition to a former London Broncos captain and may allow him to go back to Australia in a few years and get a better position within an NRL club. It would also allow Rob Powell time to complete his apprenticeship rather than on the job training.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 018837.stm Terry Matterson leaving Cas, expected to move to an NRL club for an assistants role at best, but is their any worth in us having a word with someone who has a strong affinity for London, the London club, rugby league in London and the European Super League. A head-coaches position at a heavily invested SL club in London would surely be an attractive proposition to a former London Broncos captain and may allow him to go back to Australia in a few years and get a better position within an NRL club. It would also allow Rob Powell time to complete his apprenticeship rather than on the job training.

Wasn't it only recently they were calling for his head in Cas



If we want an Aussie lets bring one in with recent experience of the Aus game like MGuire, Brown etc. At least introduce boring defensive tactics

Wouldn't say no to going down the NRL route, only problem being that we as the non-elite SL clubs cannot entice the NRL coaches. Salford appointed a guy I had never heard of and I'm pretty clued up on all matters Antipodean, and I'd be suprised if we could get a name that anyone knows, even if we are serious about spending to cap. The only name I know that could come to us would be our former asst coach Rohan Smith, son of Brian Smith, as Matt Elliott is to become the Roosters asst coach from 2012. Rohan Smith has coached the Tongan national side, but would another young coach be the answer, or help Rob Powells development I don't know.



We are in a better position to look for a coach in 2012 if there is money to spend for players.

If you were clued up would you not know the names of the Origin asst coaches



Had you heard of MaGuire before he moved to the Pies- he was No 3 at The Storm behind Bellamy and Kearney.

With the best will in the world, talking about a new coach is a red herring. It only applies if you think there are coaches out there who could conjure more wins out of the squad Quins have. Ultimately, you can only get so much out of a certain set of players. Maguire did very well at Wigan because he took a squad which was underperforming and made them play at their max. Potter did ok at Saints with a squad in transition,and a lot of people thought that when he went to Bradford, he'd significantly improve them after MacNamara, but results this year show that maybe mediocrity is all the Bradford squad were ever capable of. Tony Smith's got a good record, but the improvement at Warrington also tracks a huge investment in new players. I can't think of any instance in which a coach has seen playing quality decline (as has happened at Harlequins in the last 5 years), but results improve.



If you think, genuinely, that the Quins 17 taking the field could, given a different coach, regularly beat most other SL sides, then I understand why you might call for a new coach. Personally, I think the only sides they can realistically compete with are Salford, Wakefield and Crusaders. Anything else is a bonus. You could get Wayne Bennett in, and that wouldn't change.

Two facts about this year



1) Our squad is very average, also very thin on actual 'first grade' talent.

2) Powell is well in over his head#



I for one am not at all surprised about our league position.