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| Well i hope we see sence and put lockers back to 13 starting next week
Smith has to play 7 with finch at 6.
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| If anyone thinks we lost yesterday because Locky was at 6 they watched a completely different game to me.
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| Yeah, it was O'Loughlin's fault that Sam made three bad errors and the ref missing a blatant knock-on!
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| Agree that Lockers at 6 did not cost us the game, but there was a lack of speed in the halves with Finch at 7 as well. Smith will surely be 7, Finch 6 and Lockers 13 for the next few games if fit.
MM didn't look 100% fit, but in all honesty most of the pack looked jaded/less ineffective and energised than usual. Lima/Mossop who were both subbed relatively early and Hansen were all disappointing along with Tuson. Looking back I can only remember Hock, Farrell and Flower doing much running with the ball.
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| It was our worst game of the season and I include the Widnes game in that. Nothing to do with lockers at 6 we just didn't play well. Even without sans errors and the knock on try, we were still beaten by a better team.
On the plus side, we now have all our eggs in one basket and a total focus on SL title!
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| I agree that the half backs were not as effective as usual and the forwards were disappointing but we still scored 28 points and could have had more. The reason we lost was because of mistakes and some bad ref decisions. In summary, we could have won that game having played well below par. Worryingly we have now lost two semi finals in a row! To give credit where it is due, Leeds and Saints are still able to raise their game for the big one off games when it matters. It will be no different in the SL play-offs when Wigan's good form all year will count for nothing. Hopefully yesterday's painful display will be a good lesson for the play-offs to come.
On the half back situation, Matty Smith will soon establish himself there allowing Lockers to revert to 13.
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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"If anyone thinks we lost yesterday because Locky was at 6 they watched a completely different game to me.'"
I never mentioned yesterday, stop flying off the handle.
I just think lockers is far more effective at 13, i didnt say we lost yesterday because lockers played at 6.
I think we will be a far better side with finch at 6, smith at 7 and allow one of the worlds best loose forwards to play in hios best position.
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| Quote Tricky Dicky="Tricky Dicky"I never mentioned yesterday, stop flying off the handle.
I just think lockers is far more effective at 13, i didnt say we lost yesterday because lockers played at 6.
I think we will be a far better side with finch at 6, smith at 7 and allow one of the worlds best loose forwards to play in hios best position.'"
If you think my response was flying off the handle you need to get out more.
The day after a poor semi final loss and you're suggesting people see sense and move Locky back. In that case if you weren't referring to yesterday then we looked pretty good in the last game with Locky at 6 and Smith at 9.
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| The one thing we can take is that, we played our worst game of the year and it was no walk over. They're gonna get their bootys handed to them well and truly in the final.
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| Lockers did not lose us the game, Super Sam did, but the lack of creativity in the halfs (due to Lockers) did not help
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| Quote Baked Bean Boogie="Baked Bean Boogie"Lockers did not lose us the game,[u Super Sam did[/u, but the lack of creativity in the halfs (due to Lockers) did not help'"
Rubbish, no one player lost us the game, the team lost, Sam made individual errors but so did others, Leeds were excellent yesterday, we didn't play well, that's sport, it happens.
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| I got a text at 16-0 down saying Finch is having a shocker and thought at the time 'he can't do anything without the ball'. We've definitely lost something with Leuluai being out but there's very few halfbacks in the world who we could have stuck in and it not be a step down.
Our attitude in the first 15 minutes cost us that match yesterday not the choice of halfbacks or referee. A couple of players looking short of full fitness didn't help either.
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