Well that particular incident - I wouldn't read anything into.



Joel is clearly unhappy that he is injured (we don't know for how long yet don't forget) and Wigan are losing.





I can't comment on the other stuff as I haven't noticed it myself.

Jesus. People will cling to anything wont they.

In what way?



The fact that there are direct signs of no confidence in the coach displayed week in week out or the fact that people chose to ignore them?

Or the fact he asked Joel if he was okay, and Joel said no. There was no evil glare and no big drama.

He was probably out of it, the commentary said he had blurred vision at the time, probably didn't know who he was looking at, and probably why Noble came looking at him and asking if he's ok.

Maybe. maybe not. But combine it with the other visable signs of discontent then could it be so easily over looked?



There is no smoke without fire and i think we have seen a few direct and indirect challenges to BN from his players that show all is not well. This is of course disregarding the inept performances.

I agree with that, things are clearly not well, and sadly, i think time is up on Noble's reign.



That being said, lets stick to facts and point, there was nothing in the Tomkins thing, lets stop looking for things to beat Noble with.

How can you be so sure, its something a few people picked up on. We are never going to know the ins and outs but in conjunction with the rest of the signs i do not think it is something that can be brushed to one side in my opinion.

Im certain, because some people will look for anything to add to the list of reasons to sack Noble. That imo is leading to crazy posts like this where players with double vision / concussion are being accused of showing the underlying problem at the club by giving "evils" to the coach.

Big call.



If Noble as i am sure he did had the knowledge of his condition it is a fairly poor reaction to his status as an injured player.



Showing very little interest to the reaction.



Now i do not disagree it could be something or nothing, but if we easily dismiss the interactions we see then in my opinion we over look the best pointers to what is going on.



If we go back to Feka calling Noble out from the stand from bringing him off against Hudds i think it was, there was a thread on here and it was equally dismissed as something and nothing, but i would argue now most in hindsite would see more in it.

The Feka incident was clearly frustration at being subbed - that could point to bigger issues, or indeed just point to the fact Feka felt fine and was frustrated at being subbed. But yeah, that may point to something.



I just feel that todays incident doesn't even warrant a mention.

I doubt any look was intentional, due to this.