Hull KR brought over 900, and Salford brought over 1000 for the cup game last year. TBH i just picked the clubs who have the North stand closed when they come to town. I dont really have a problem with catalan they have obviously been a success but in order to try and expand the game the RFL are killing rugby league heartland clubs, Quins and Crusaders being the worst cases - the only thing they have over clubs like widnes and halifax is location and Crusaders dont really have that anymore!

Now now! We are all Treizistes together in this world! I support the French struggle to keep the game going every bit as much as I want to see the game flourish in Cumbria. It shouldn't be a them & us scenario.

Speaking of away support the Crusaders have sold more tickets than ever for an away game. They have sold 250 tickets already for the Warrington game. I know it's still a low number but it shows that the location in Wrexham may have a positive effect on gates.



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Crusaders have a lot of away games early season but their next two home games are aginst Catalans and Quins.

Crusaders could win them both!

I was impressed with their first two home game's crowds and although 250 ain't that high at least it's a start.

Should they win those next two home games then the fixtures v Saints Warrington and us will have near enough a full house.

The move to Wrexham might not be the disaster we all feared.

Maybe a tad rash on my part. But it just annoys me that heartland teams are overlooked for these expansion teams. It is good for the game, don't get me wrong. But these expansion clubs need teams to play at the end of the day, and if they keep going under they won't have anyone to play!

With enough time in the Championship they could have built a good fan base, bringing more people through the gate and doing the game in wales a lot more good than it actually ended up doing after being fast tracked. Surely the financial stability would have been miles better had they built up a fan base, and been given time to actually build as a club.

i would like to see widnes and a cumbrian club in SL , never mind another french club. I would not like to lose any of the curent teams that are in SL right now , even though it is inevitable. Could we not merge the hull clubs ( joke )

250 isn't bad. Some established "heartland" clubs would struggle to match that. Its not far from Hudds to Wigan for example, but I doubt they would bring much more than 250 to the DW on a Friday night.

I would love the Crusaders make it work in Wrexham be great if they can finish in the top 8 but maybe a top 10 would be more realistic.



I would sooner have a Welsh team than another French team in SL

250 is pretty good going, considering Toulouse got 850 for their home game yesterday. Removes all 'on field' criteria for their next application and once again renders the whole franchise process a joke.

I have to agree. The RFL should just forget the whole 'franchise' applications because they evidently don't stick to them. If they did Widnes Vikings would have got in last year.



I'm all for expansion and for trying to 'spread the word' of our great game, but not at the expense of certain clubs. It makes a dull atmosphere when you have an empty North Stand. I like many people would love to see Widnes or Leigh back in Super League or any Lancashire teams for that matter.



Salford are a team that I think are going nowhere. They have a poor squad and that is reflected in their gates. They've been unlucky that some of their best players have left them, but they have not replaced them. They are a team under serious threat. Crusaders RL are getting their act together. Les Catalans have always been strong (just might need a different coach!). As for Harlequins I'm not sure. I can never see them getting healthy attendances like I can with the Crusaders and Les Catalans. We've tried and tried, but it's just not working.

Who were Catalans prior to Super League? UTC? Be interesting to see what crowds they were getting before they came into SL.