Drugs used to give you any advantage of your competitor,should carry a big ban than drugs used in recreational use.



At the end of the day its cheating .

You should be sacked regardless of what type of drug it is.



If I was to be caught under the influence at work then I would be sacked on the spot and would struggle to get another job. Why should someone who happens to be good at a sport be able to take drugs and then return to their job in 2 years or less and carry on as normal? That's before you factor in that they're a role model to Children everywhere who may start to think that drugs are cool because their favourite sportsmen do it.





Gaz Hock has been in superb form this season (my player of the year so far) and I'd rather see him in a Wigan shirt than any other, but IMO he shouldn't have been given another chance.

I agree performance enhancers should carry more consequences than recreational though both should be treated with the contempt they deserve.



On topic why do we get this every now and then? Why would a super league player try and bite someone?



I know he is going soon but still, biting? If you mean to damage why not throw a punch or something?

The Sam/Hudson incident isn't about drus its about biting.

SW was asked at the press conf about the on report incident being about biting.

He said he hadn't seen it and wasn't prepared to comment until he had.

He did say that if it was found to have occured then he'd be disappointed.

What you must understand is that sportsmen, especially at the elite level, are role models. If say Gareth Hock was found to have taken cocaine and the sport did nothing about it 'Oh well, boys will be boys, he didn't cheat' What type of message does that send out to the thousands and thousands of kids who watch, and more than likely, idolize their favourite Wigan players and be just like them?



'Oh Hock does coke, so it's okay for me to do it'



That could be the reasoning of an impressionable young boy or girl when offered a line of coke, or a pill, or anything else for that matter. These drugs are dangerous, VERY dangerous. Cocaine is cut with god knows what when you buy it on street level, or in clubs. Pills are the same.



The fact of the matter is that although it gives them no advantage, these drugs are illegal and dangerous, if players want to do it, they're taking risks with their own bodies, which is fair enough, as they have to live with that. I'm glad we as a sport are governed by WADA because I wouldn't want my children thinking it's okay to do drugs, because we, as a sport, allow our elite players to do so.

I fairness anyone that thinks "oh hock does it so it's ok for me to do it." is a bigger idiot than hock.



People know its illegal if they suddenly changed their mind just because a professional sportsman did it then they're a pure idiot.



Not condoning the drug use it's an idiotic thing to do especially considering the ban but to say kids are gonna do drugs coz hock did is silly.



You sound like those Americans who claim that the columbine massacre was because they played grand theft auto and listened to Marilyn Manson. Guess what I've done both of those today and I do not feel the need or urge to go and kill people. If they do drugs and say that they "did it coz hock did" they would've done it anyway they just want to hide behind an excuse.









Anyway on topic biting?! Jesus Christ what a coward.

imo there should be a fixed penalty for biting.....having all your teeth removed, and the use of anesthetic will be dependant on the severity.....ie.deliberate biting to hurt an opponent = no anesthetic

just been on the rfl disciplinary site and the only incident from Friday is the 'no case to answer' against Eric.

if the rfl are still investigating, surely there should be a reference to the incident on the site ? or do they only put them on once the initial review has been completed ?



EDIT : found it on the front page.

But it's fine for players to get drunk every other weekend? It's been proven that alcohol is far more damaging than all but the most serious of narcotics. Would you want your kids thinking it's ok to get so bladdered they don't know what they're doing?

Whilst part of me agrees with the sentiment regarding deliberate cheating (steroids,HGH) and recreational drugs.........



Over 10,000 people die in drugs related crime every YEAR in Mexico alone.



All would be avoided if no-one took the drugs. Arguably use of cocaine should relate in a ban for life.

is nowhere near as dangerous as many narcotics, and even legal drugs! Cigarettes are far more dangerous than a couple of pints at the weekend.



Now if we get into binge drinking 10 pints a night with 10 shots of Sambuca, yes, this is harmful. But by the same token, if you went to McDonalds 10 times a day, this would be just as, if not, more harmful. It's everything in moderation. Yes a few pints won't hurt, that is, largely why it's legal. People have died after trying narcotics ONCE which is why they're illegal, mostly.

this is what coke does to you